March 25, 2023
#73 From Tech Expert to Leadership Coach: Insights from Vamsi Polimetla
In this interview, we speak with Vamsi Polimetla, an entrepreneur and leadership coach who transitioned from a technology role to helping others become leaders. Vamsi shares his insights on what true leadership really means, where the journey towards leadership starts, and the tools and means that can be useful in this journey. He also offers tips on leveraging knowledge to build a service and overcoming assumptions about tech people being introverts.
Make More Leaders Program:
Vamsi's Make More Leaders program is designed to help individuals and organizations develop leadership skills and capabilities. Through workshops, coaching, and mentoring, participants learn how to communicate effectively, build strong relationships, and create a culture of excellence within their teams. The program is tailored to the unique needs of each individual or organization, ensuring that everyone can benefit from Vamsi's expertise and experience.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vamsipolimetla/
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Hello and welcome to a new
episode of the CTO show.
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In Mammoth, my name is Matt
Matt.
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And in each episode, I explore
latest trends inside strategies,
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in topics related to technology
and startups + entrepreneurship.
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And as you know, from time to
time I have special guests
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thought leaders, and innovators,
who would share with us that
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expertise in wide.
Change of topics and industries
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and what they are doing and what
the impact they are.
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Trying to put their hands on and
needed world of tech and
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business.
And with me today, I have my
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friend Vibe.
See, Paul maitla was draining me
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from Pennsylvania in the United
States of America.
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Thank you very much for MC, for
being with me on the show today.
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So if you can just start, you
know, telling the audience a
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little bit about yourself.
Your background and your areas
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of expertise, absolutely my
mother, that's probably a great
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to be here on your show and I
thank you for the invite little
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background about me originally
born in India.
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Been living in u.s. for almost
20 years now.
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And if you want any time like an
India, there are only like a
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three things that you can do.
Whether you could be an
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engineer, you could be a doctor
or could be a failure, so
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definitely don't want to be a
failure and I don't Have passion
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for becoming a doctor's became
an engineer.
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And I spent like first 20 years
of my time on technology started
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as a programmer back in India.
Those mid 90s late 90s and about
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to Singapore.
Will you there for some time
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that can do you ask?
And yeah, that does my
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background about.
I started enjoying this
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computers and like a programming
journey in this process.
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I realized that a lot of times I
was working on writing programs
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for computers, but what about
the programming for us?
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What are the things that we are
help us to do better to become a
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better human being.
So I started researching, I
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started spending so much time on
studying how human beings works.
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Why?
Some people are getting so many
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good results.
Other people are settling for
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average life.
So that is where my curiosity
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started.
And I started going to events
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like Tony Robbins Brennan
butcher.
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Dropping sure.
Irma.
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All the powerful leaders in the
world and I started seeing the
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pattern and the same pattern
that I do it.
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In the programming side, how
about I apply the same pattern
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to myself and all the people
around me and I started my
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leadership coaching DNA there.
So, that's, that's a very
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high-level background of where I
started from and where I'm
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heading to wants.
And it's been about like a five
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years Muhammad.
I mean, this year, me and the
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past best five years of my life.
Wow, that's impressive.
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And we stood, you know, like at
some stage and everyone, you
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know, they they would stop to
think little bit about, you
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know, what day, where they are
in their careers to the, you
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know what, they want to achieve
for you.
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And I'm asking this because
majority of the audience are
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people, whether in technology or
business, right?
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From your experience, because
you've been on this journey,
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When was that moment that you
said you know what I need to to
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do this leap, right.
And I need to shift to the next
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level.
Well like how really you felt
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that you need to do this.
Absolutely.
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So everyone gets this kind of
like a pivotal moments in their
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life.
I got it like a multiple pivots
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throughout my journey.
So when I moved into management
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side from technology like a
programmer, to the architect to
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the manager.
ER, so one day I had an
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opportunity to present my vision
to entire audience, like about
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entire organization that point.
Like I was, I was like really
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bad at my communication and I
bombed on the stage and I
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realized, oh my God, like I'm
really bad at this.
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I really wanted to start
improving.
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I started putting like a lot of
effort.
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A lot of like a time.
When you go with my
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communication at the same time,
I was growing my personal
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development investment every
time I Maybe hundred dollars on
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my personal growth.
It's giving me back thousand
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dollars every time I spend more,
I'm getting more.
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So that's that's the starting
point of my Pivot and your name.
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And in this process I became
really, really good with my
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leadership and I started leading
people at one point.
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I had like more than 150 direct
reports working for me.
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So I'm like, pretty much like
multiple parts of the world and
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I was going good in the
corporate career, but I'm
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noticing at the point.
Like so not the path.
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I really wanted to go lot of
people wearing masks in the
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corporate and they are not
really authentic to themselves.
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They're just like a doing it
because they are boss asked them
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to do it and I realized like
this is not the path I wanted to
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do really wanted to just like a
true to myself really wanted to
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spend time on what I really like
about and I started like a
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helping people who are around me
that gave me so much
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satisfaction.
This is like The reminder that
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we all need to keep in our mind.
Success, without fulfillment is
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Ultimate failure.
I want to repeat that again.
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Success, without fulfillment is
Ultimate cellular, if you are
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security a wedding, like all the
success from your corporate
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career, but you are not sold
inside.
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Guess what?
Maybe there is something more
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that you can do.
It doesn't have to be on the
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corporate side.
It doesn't have to be on the
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technology side.
There is something like that, we
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can go and help kids You can go
and do some volunteer work so
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you can go and start like maybe
a different path that you always
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wanted to do.
So there are many possibilities
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once you step into that.
So that was a pivotal moment,
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like the moment I started having
people.
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I was getting so much
satisfaction and my coaching
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Journey started there.
Wow, that's really, really
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impressive vamsee and this
brings to me the question, the
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next question, a lot of people
in business and I gained a
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focusing a little bit on Tech
here.
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Maybe they have this bad idea
about what is leadership and
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they think like leadership is
just managing people, you know
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what, like I wanted to share
from your experience because
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you've passed it.
All right.
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So are you share that you
started with the like a
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developer and then architect,
then to the managerial position.
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So, how our let me say, what do
you tell, you know, fellow
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people who works today?
And Technology specifically and
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in general as well about what
Israeli leadership?
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Absolutely.
So leadership is lot of people
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think that because it comes from
Authority, which comes from the
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title, which comes in a big
office space policy, that is not
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leadership.
Leadership is all about like,
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who you are, who you are be in
this, current moment, we are
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being when you're talking to the
security guard of your company
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that is exactly what you should
be.
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Is it doesn't have to be, don't
have to be a vice president of
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Technology.
You are a big manager with the
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lot of Select titles on your
background?
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No, it's about like a hub.
You're treating the problem.
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What kind of energy that you are
taking it to?
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The problem?
Are you doing?
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What you are saying it to other
people?
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Are you walking the talk blog
people?
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They they just say all these
things when it comes to them,
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they are not implementing those
things.
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They're pushing the team
members.
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You need to go for extra mile.
You need to do extra work, but
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are you really Really Jack.
So it is commits comes back to
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one single word.
Muhammad.
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Its Integrity.
What you are doing.
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When nobody's watching, there is
exactly what leadership.
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And if you start observing that,
if you start stepping either,
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you don't need to have a title
right now.
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You can be okay developer, you
can be a technician, you can be
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an engineer right now, but you
can start behaving like a CEO of
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your company.
You need to start like maybe
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different angle different.
Your mind and start asking like
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what would my see would do in
this situation and you step into
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that role unconsciously and you
do the word?
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And you guess what?
You become the good leader
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people will start looking up to
you.
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People will start seeing like
who you are and this is this is
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one beautiful quote from Steve
Jobs, everyone, no Discord.
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This is this is the phenomenon.
Every interaction that you are
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going to have with other human
being.
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Either you are depositing
something or withdrawing
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something every interaction that
you're having with other human
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beings either you are
depositing.
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Something into your leadership
account, your brand account or
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you're withdrawing something
that interaction could be with
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your security guard with your
manager.
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With your CEO, may be with your
wife, husband, may be with your
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kids, if the interaction you
ship is not just in the
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corporate side, it's in your
home.
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Are you being really good?
Leader are you walking the talk?
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Are you really showing them?
What is possible through your
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actions?
Or you're just like, maybe only
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the top guy is, your video is
matching your audio.
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If your video is not matching
your audio, there is a great
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opportunity for you to just and
just that.
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So that's that's, that's the
leadership.
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That's like lot of people don't
talk about it.
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That is where all the magic
happens.
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If you look at like a successful
people, they all have this thing
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is foundation completely
integrated into every part of
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their body.
The capelet, he does like Steve
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Jobs like look at like Nelson
Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi which
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these people we have this
installed and you can do that.
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Success is all about modeling
other successful people.
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Yeah.
And this brings you know to to
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my mind the next question, there
must be a place to stay.
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I know the answer but I want to
hear it from you.
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Well, does this journey start
like?
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I mean when is really If someone
decides okay, like I want to
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embark on this journey and I
want to be doing, you know, or
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fulfilling, as you said what I'm
supposed to do in in in in my
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job, in my career, in my life,
where does this journey starts?
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It starts, it all starts with
who you are.
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You can start where you are
right now, completely taking
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100% responsibility of your
life.
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Eight hundred percent
responsibility.
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Don't be the person who blame
other person.
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Blame wife, blame husband, plane
parents live here.
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It's no take 100% responsibility
right now.
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In this moment I'm going to be
taking ownership of my life and
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start stepping into the role of
see work.
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I always tell all of my clients
were made.
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You are the CEO of your life.
Nobody else.
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Lot of times people think like
somebody's going to come and
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save me, nobody's going to save
you.
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You're the only person you have
to save yourself, so start where
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you are.
It start with your help.
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Think about the leadership is
not just on the technology on
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the management side.
Are you showing leadership on
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your help?
Ask yourself like a, what are
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the things?
The best leader would do in my
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current situation?
You may be a little overweight,
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maybe a little underweight,
maybe you're going through some
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long term things.
What would this best leader do
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and show that?
There is the best thing.
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The moment you start that
tackling that have problems, lot
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of other problems automatically
will be clear for you.
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Once you complete the help,
going to the relationship side,
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what is the best leader do in my
relationship relationship with
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your partner relationship, with
your team, members relationship
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with your friends.
What would that person do?
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Am I showing that leadership?
What kind of words that I'm
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using one?
I'm talking to that.
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What kind of language I'm using?
So, what kind of communication
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that I'm sharing this?
Am I sharing this?
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Positive things.
I'm assuring the - thanks.
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Am I doing all the gossips or
I'm an inspiring people?
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That is the second step.
Number 3, go into your career
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and start asking, what would my
longer-term vision looks like,
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do you have a vision for the
next 10 years?
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It's 15 years.
Next, 20 years, spend some time
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ride on.
If you go to a company, all the
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companies, big, big Corporation,
they have their Vision, that's
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reason, they're able to To go at
attack those Visions for you.
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Do you have the vision for
yourself?
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If you don't guess what?
If there is no target, how do
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you know where to hit that
rocket?
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Right, so if you don't see
something, you can't hit it.
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So obvious, like a have that
Vision in front of you for your
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career and the final final
component, materials about your
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contribution and acting back to
the spiritual, connecting back
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to the superpower.
Why you are here.
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What are you contributing?
Am I just like taking my Life
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For Me?
Maybe?
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Or am I using this life to
donate something back to the
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world?
It's may not be in the money.
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Maybe.
Knowledge, maybe you're tired,
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maybe resources that you have
with the people on the other
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side of the world, they don't
have those resources.
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So all these areas not just like
all the technology not just on
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the management side, there are
like multiple areas of
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leadership that you can start
implementing and you can start
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seeing that.
And this is, this is, this is
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how you need to balance your
dealership.
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You need to balance your life
and you need to do do more fun
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things.
Yeah, that's great Insight out.
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I'd say the next question.
I want to ask you like, of
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course, we put the foundation.
We know, well the start point is
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but like anything else we need
to be empowered with some tools.
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We need to be empowered with
some, you know, ways to achieve
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this.
So you, you came to something
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very important is actually and I
like to, it's from Simon.
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Cynic, like Define your why,
right?
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So we need to have your why?
So you define your why, and now
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you're going there, what you
would need down the road to
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reach this way.
Jump ship.
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Always remember.
These are light, is almost like
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a buffet when you go to a
buffet.
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If you just go and pick only one
item from the bucket, Buffet,
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every single time, when you go
there, you're not doing Justice
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to the ba ba.
So Buffet means you have so many
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things available to you, so you
need to start experimenting
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things if you are thinking this
is the only part that I have.
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How do you know what are the
things that are available?
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Just take an example of a
mountain bike Mountain Bike.
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Got ten gears 90% of the people
they're using the default gear.
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They don't even know.
There are more dies Available to
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You On That Mountain by.
So start exploring the themes
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ask yourself like what are the
things that It really, really
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brings you happiness and start
spending some time.
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How can I just make this my
bigger purpose in this life?
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How can I make?
Like maybe this like more time
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on this?
How can I spend more energy on
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this?
The moment you start spending
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that in the moment, you start
believing that you're going to
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be finding that if you are
sitting on hands you're not
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moving anywhere.
It is not going to come and fall
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on your lap.
You need to step out of your
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comfort zone you to start taking
those extra steps to see what
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Things that are available to you
in the buffet.
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So the moment you go there, you
will fight those days.
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Yeah, that's that's also great
to hear now, one of the things
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you do vamsee usually is like
other than coaching fellow
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technology and business people
about, you know, leadership.
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So one thing which we discussed
me and you before is regarding,
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you know how to turn.
Their knowledge right to
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something that they we can start
something when they start up.
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Maybe they would offer it as a
service and so on.
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So I'm pretty little bit curious
about, you know, this area that
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that also you work with the with
your clients on, absolutely,
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absolutely.
First of all, I help people to
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break that invisible glass
ceiling.
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Lot of people, they install some
ceiling on their own I think
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like I cannot exceed more than
that more than that.
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So for example you are a manager
or not you're making maybe fifty
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thousand dollars a year, maybe a
hundred thousand dollars a year
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and you think oh it's impossible
for me to go beyond hundred
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fifty thousand dollars a year
who said that that is like a lot
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of times we install it and we
just sit inside the Rocks.
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There are so many people who are
making seven hundred eight
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hundred thousand dollars in
terms of the compensation for
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the same work that you are
doing.
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The moment you start seeing
those possibilities.
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You are not going to be sitting
in the Box, you're going to be
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start.
Seeing the, what can I do?
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What is my next step?
How can I reach there?
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It's not just about the numbers,
it's about the possibilities.
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Same with your help.
What are the things like?
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Lot of people, things, all my
dad has diabetes.
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Madam, my mom, got this.
My grandmother got this.
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I'm going to get this now, you
can change it.
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The moment you start moving on
from that zone like a default
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Zone.
You can Define What about that?
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You want?
So good going into this house.
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Everybody can start doing this
number one thing that I always
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advise all of my clients my
method is visibility is
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profitability.
Visibility is profitability, no
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matter how good you are.
If you are not visible to the
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world, how would somebody go
your talents?
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If my Smith you are sitting in
your garage and Alexei?
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Oh, I don't want to do.
Do this podcast?
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How would World know about you?
The reason like, you and I are
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talking even though 10,000 miles
away a reason because you are
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visible.
And I am visible.
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That is the number one thing.
You need to be visible, no
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matter what you are doing, you
are an engineer or maybe a
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programmer.
You are a manager starts
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showcasing your skills to the
world.
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People will notice that people
will realize, that all there is
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somebody who's locked talented
here.
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So start showing up.
That's that's the fact was, I
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would you tell anyone, you know,
like thank you very much for
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mentioning this and it's kind of
if I can contribute little bit.
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I know like usually I don't talk
when I have guests, but if the
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audience will allow me, and if
you allow me when see about
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showing up, you know, like it's
100% true fact, because you
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might be the most genius.
Hello / programmer in the world,
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you might be the best.
I don't know and Visionary.
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You can you can you know, draw
strategies for for Fortune 100
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companies but no one knows you,
right?
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So if you don't show in front of
people because I'm sharing this
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from my own experience and I
used to just write it on my
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notebook and at used to die.
They write it used to after a
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while.
You know what?
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I'm not doing this.
But really I like to touch on
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this because Cuz this is one of
the things that pushed me also
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to later on, do the podcast is
to encourage other people to do
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the same.
Like don't keep it, don't keep
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it with you, right?
So that's you know, I thank you
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for bringing this and I think
you did the same thing when I'm
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said so because when we
discussed the other type about
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you know, how yourself, you
know, you are in the the itu
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know like and ask people to
working in technology you have
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seen at the introverts and the
Geeks, right?
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They don't and this is would
bring the second question.
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How we can break this?
How we can break that.
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Yeah, like this tech people,
they are introverts, they don't
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have the communication skills.
Some people say, oh, you know
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what?
Like I'm afraid to go and you
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mentioned something now.
So, I need your advice about
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like, how we can break this.
I would say, I call it a virtual
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wall, or like a fiction Airy
wall, how we can break this and
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just go in front.
Out of people.
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Sure.
So the easily to do this, like a
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start something small and start
immediately, don't wait for a
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perfect moment.
If you just like, maybe bought a
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new camera and the first 50
pictures of that camera is not
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going to be that great.
After 50, you're going to get
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beautiful picture, the be 55
even better, maybe hundreds.
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You're going to have a beautiful
life.
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Photograph, coming out from that
camera.
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Same thing with you, your skill,
the first 50 times.
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Nobody's going to be recognizing
you.
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You're not going to be getting
any Applause.
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You're not going to be getting
so many downloads for your
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podcast.
Not going to get any likes for
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your social media.
That's okay.
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But after 55, maybe after 7475
entire wall is noticing who you
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are.
So don't sit like until you are
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percent start.
Now, with the what you have, a
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lot of people other.
I noticed that they wait for
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perfect moment, they wait for
perfect opportunity, guess what?
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There won't be any?
Never be any perfect
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opportunity.
Today is the right time.
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Yes, it is a time and start
something start immediately and
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start small and improve on
maintain that Cadence.
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If you are doing every day.
For example, my math you are
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doing this podcast once a week,
do that every week for the next
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55 weeks.
And that way, you build that
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confidence, after 55 weeks,
you're not going to be the same
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person.
You will be the number one
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forecasters in your town.
Yeah.
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So that's that's how I would
recommend it.
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Yeah.
And just you know, to add on
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what you said.
Cabaye do I am doing daily.
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So this is the, I think you
should be the 72 or 73.
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I'm not sure.
So I do daily and 100% agree.
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And the other thing to your
point.
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I advise everyone about the, you
know, don't wait until you are
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perfect to show up.
There are plenty of examples but
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the ones that came to my mind,
right?
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So if you go and see how Apple
started it, they had this, you
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know, the apple one, it was in a
wooden box, right?
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That was not perfect, right?
And this is something started a
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whole Revolution.
If you think about something
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like Dropbox, I'm not sure if
everyone knows but Dropbox, they
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didn't have even a product when
they showed.
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And what their Vision.
They had just a video and some
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sketches from from the founders,
right?
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So I used to have this problem
myself.
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I want everything to be perfect.
And then I came, you know, I'm
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talking here about four from
technology and Entrepreneurship,
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I was lucky to treat couple of
books.
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You know, that talks exactly
about the same some of them
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related to self development,
some of them related to
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entrepreneurship and yeah, and
everyone knows nowadays.
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The something called agile in
model, whatever you want to call
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it, like, where you you iterate,
you've been something, get
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feedback and then move on,
right?
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Until until you will find.
Because if you keep looking and
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I liked what you said, like it's
consistency, right?
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So, keep repeating.
You might I don't like the word
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fail.
You might not achieve what you
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aim to do.
I don't call it fail and then
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try out of time, right?
So, so, One of them, it will, it
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will, it will work.
Now, finally before we close
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like with you've MC for today,
in this episode, I wanted to
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just, you know, like explain a
little bit about the program
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that you have.
And you know what, the audience
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can expect, if they want to
reach out to you, what is inside
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the program that you run and
what are the outcomes that they
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could expect?
Absolutely absolutely.
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So I have Along different levels
and different stages of their
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Journey.
So, the very first program, I
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mention here that is called
personal Leadership Academy.
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So, this is for the people who
install that invisible glass
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ceiling on their own and they're
thinking, oh, it's very tough
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for me to become a manager.
It's very tough for me to become
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a leader of this organization
that personal Leadership Academy
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is the great place to start.
We eliminate like a so many
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things from that and so show the
possibilities.
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The second program that I
recommend for people is called
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communication accelerator, this
is the program where every
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person should go through.
No matter where you are, you are
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a programmer or your CEO of a
company, because the coach all
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the people in the in the
hierarchy.
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So through communication
accelerator, you become a better
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Communicator.
It's not about the skills that
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you have on your college degrees
or like, maybe on your resume.
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It's about like how you are
communicating The skills, how
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you're communicating your words
to the world.
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So I highly recommend people
will start looking up like a
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personality Academy is for
communication access later
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programs and they are available.
Like if you go and Google my
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name, maybe Matthew can drop my
LinkedIn profile.
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Should, I will the show notes,
they'll find us things.
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And a lot of times, we offer
these trainings for free.
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So look-ups for the links and
you can sign up for the free
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trainings and you can you can
yeah.
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Join one of those trainings.
And if you really wanted to work
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on that for 3 months, 6 months,
1 year, there are programs
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available and delete help people
to achieve their 10-year
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progress, then your goals in
less than 12 months.
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Wow, that's really impressive.
Well, 13, I really, really
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appreciate your time today.
It's like, I know it's early
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morning for you still.
It was really insightful.
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I hope that also the audience,
whether they're going to listen
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to it or watch, it will find it.
Useful.
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And helpful, I will be dropping
the a LinkedIn profile of
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Ramses.
If you want to connect with him
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and you can find also his
website also as well.
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And again thank you very much
for MC for your time today.
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Any final thank you to say
before we close.
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So one thing to everyone start
before you are ready stock
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before you are very Wow, that's
that's really nice to hear from
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you.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you for you.
All the audience who tuned in to
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listen to this episode today, as
usual, if you are watching it
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subscribe and share.
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Also the knowledge with others.
If you are listening over the
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don't forget to follow us.
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this and I'm insisting on this.
If you have any questions, if
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you have any feedback about
whether this episode all the
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show in general, I would be more
than happy to listen to them.
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You can reach out to me by
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You can find me on LinkedIn and
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I would be more than happy if
you want to come to the show.
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You have an idea.
I'm again, very open to talk to
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you and have the discussion.
Thank you very much and until we
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meet and the Step is owed by.
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Hello and welcome to a new
episode of the CTO show.
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In Mammoth, my name is Matt
Matt.
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And in each episode, I explore
latest trends inside strategies,
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in topics related to technology
and startups + entrepreneurship.
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And as you know, from time to
time I have special guests
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thought leaders, and innovators,
who would share with us that
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expertise in wide.
Change of topics and industries
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and what they are doing and what
the impact they are.
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Trying to put their hands on and
needed world of tech and
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business.
And with me today, I have my
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friend Vibe.
See, Paul maitla was draining me
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from Pennsylvania in the United
States of America.
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Thank you very much for MC, for
being with me on the show today.
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So if you can just start, you
know, telling the audience a
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little bit about yourself.
Your background and your areas
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of expertise, absolutely my
mother, that's probably a great
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to be here on your show and I
thank you for the invite little
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background about me originally
born in India.
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Been living in u.s. for almost
20 years now.
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And if you want any time like an
India, there are only like a
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three things that you can do.
Whether you could be an
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engineer, you could be a doctor
or could be a failure, so
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definitely don't want to be a
failure and I don't Have passion
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for becoming a doctor's became
an engineer.
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And I spent like first 20 years
of my time on technology started
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as a programmer back in India.
Those mid 90s late 90s and about
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to Singapore.
Will you there for some time
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that can do you ask?
And yeah, that does my
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background about.
I started enjoying this
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computers and like a programming
journey in this process.
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I realized that a lot of times I
was working on writing programs
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for computers, but what about
the programming for us?
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What are the things that we are
help us to do better to become a
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better human being.
So I started researching, I
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started spending so much time on
studying how human beings works.
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Why?
Some people are getting so many
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good results.
Other people are settling for
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average life.
So that is where my curiosity
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started.
And I started going to events
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like Tony Robbins Brennan
butcher.
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Dropping sure.
Irma.
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All the powerful leaders in the
world and I started seeing the
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pattern and the same pattern
that I do it.
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In the programming side, how
about I apply the same pattern
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to myself and all the people
around me and I started my
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leadership coaching DNA there.
So, that's, that's a very
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high-level background of where I
started from and where I'm
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heading to wants.
And it's been about like a five
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years Muhammad.
I mean, this year, me and the
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past best five years of my life.
Wow, that's impressive.
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And we stood, you know, like at
some stage and everyone, you
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know, they they would stop to
think little bit about, you
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know, what day, where they are
in their careers to the, you
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know what, they want to achieve
for you.
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And I'm asking this because
majority of the audience are
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people, whether in technology or
business, right?
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From your experience, because
you've been on this journey,
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When was that moment that you
said you know what I need to to
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do this leap, right.
And I need to shift to the next
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level.
Well like how really you felt
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that you need to do this.
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So everyone gets this kind of
like a pivotal moments in their
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life.
I got it like a multiple pivots
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throughout my journey.
So when I moved into management
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side from technology like a
programmer, to the architect to
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the manager.
ER, so one day I had an
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opportunity to present my vision
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entire organization that point.
Like I was, I was like really
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bad at my communication and I
bombed on the stage and I
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realized, oh my God, like I'm
really bad at this.
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I really wanted to start
improving.
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I started putting like a lot of
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A lot of like a time.
When you go with my
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communication at the same time,
I was growing my personal
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development investment every
time I Maybe hundred dollars on
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my personal growth.
It's giving me back thousand
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dollars every time I spend more,
I'm getting more.
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So that's that's the starting
point of my Pivot and your name.
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really, really good with my
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leadership and I started leading
people at one point.
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I had like more than 150 direct
reports working for me.
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So I'm like, pretty much like
multiple parts of the world and
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I was going good in the
corporate career, but I'm
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noticing at the point.
Like so not the path.
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I really wanted to go lot of
people wearing masks in the
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corporate and they are not
really authentic to themselves.
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They're just like a doing it
because they are boss asked them
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to do it and I realized like
this is not the path I wanted to
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do really wanted to just like a
true to myself really wanted to
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spend time on what I really like
about and I started like a
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helping people who are around me
that gave me so much
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satisfaction.
This is like The reminder that
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we all need to keep in our mind.
Success, without fulfillment is
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Ultimate failure.
I want to repeat that again.
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Success, without fulfillment is
Ultimate cellular, if you are
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security a wedding, like all the
success from your corporate
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career, but you are not sold
inside.
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Guess what?
Maybe there is something more
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that you can do.
It doesn't have to be on the
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corporate side.
It doesn't have to be on the
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technology side.
There is something like that, we
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can go and help kids You can go
and do some volunteer work so
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you can go and start like maybe
a different path that you always
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wanted to do.
So there are many possibilities
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once you step into that.
So that was a pivotal moment,
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like the moment I started having
people.
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I was getting so much
satisfaction and my coaching
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Journey started there.
Wow, that's really, really
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impressive vamsee and this
brings to me the question, the
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next question, a lot of people
in business and I gained a
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focusing a little bit on Tech
here.
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Maybe they have this bad idea
about what is leadership and
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they think like leadership is
just managing people, you know
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what, like I wanted to share
from your experience because
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you've passed it.
All right.
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So are you share that you
started with the like a
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developer and then architect,
then to the managerial position.
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So, how our let me say, what do
you tell, you know, fellow
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people who works today?
And Technology specifically and
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in general as well about what
Israeli leadership?
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Absolutely.
So leadership is lot of people
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think that because it comes from
Authority, which comes from the
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title, which comes in a big
office space policy, that is not
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leadership.
Leadership is all about like,
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who you are, who you are be in
this, current moment, we are
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being when you're talking to the
security guard of your company
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that is exactly what you should
be.
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Is it doesn't have to be, don't
have to be a vice president of
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Technology.
You are a big manager with the
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lot of Select titles on your
background?
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No, it's about like a hub.
You're treating the problem.
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What kind of energy that you are
taking it to?
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The problem?
Are you doing?
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What you are saying it to other
people?
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Are you walking the talk blog
people?
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They they just say all these
things when it comes to them,
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they are not implementing those
things.
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They're pushing the team
members.
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You need to go for extra mile.
You need to do extra work, but
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are you really Really Jack.
So it is commits comes back to
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one single word.
Muhammad.
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Its Integrity.
What you are doing.
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When nobody's watching, there is
exactly what leadership.
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And if you start observing that,
if you start stepping either,
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you don't need to have a title
right now.
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You can be okay developer, you
can be a technician, you can be
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an engineer right now, but you
can start behaving like a CEO of
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your company.
You need to start like maybe
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different angle different.
Your mind and start asking like
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what would my see would do in
this situation and you step into
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that role unconsciously and you
do the word?
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And you guess what?
You become the good leader
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people will start looking up to
you.
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People will start seeing like
who you are and this is this is
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one beautiful quote from Steve
Jobs, everyone, no Discord.
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This is this is the phenomenon.
Every interaction that you are
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going to have with other human
being.
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Either you are depositing
something or withdrawing
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something every interaction that
you're having with other human
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beings either you are
depositing.
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Something into your leadership
account, your brand account or
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you're withdrawing something
that interaction could be with
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your security guard with your
manager.
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With your CEO, may be with your
wife, husband, may be with your
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kids, if the interaction you
ship is not just in the
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corporate side, it's in your
home.
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Are you being really good?
Leader are you walking the talk?
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Are you really showing them?
What is possible through your
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actions?
Or you're just like, maybe only
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the top guy is, your video is
matching your audio.
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If your video is not matching
your audio, there is a great
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opportunity for you to just and
just that.
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So that's that's, that's the
leadership.
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That's like lot of people don't
talk about it.
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That is where all the magic
happens.
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If you look at like a successful
people, they all have this thing
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is foundation completely
integrated into every part of
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their body.
The capelet, he does like Steve
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Jobs like look at like Nelson
Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi which
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these people we have this
installed and you can do that.
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Success is all about modeling
other successful people.
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Yeah.
And this brings you know to to
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my mind the next question, there
must be a place to stay.
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I know the answer but I want to
hear it from you.
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Well, does this journey start
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I mean when is really If someone
decides okay, like I want to
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embark on this journey and I
want to be doing, you know, or
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fulfilling, as you said what I'm
supposed to do in in in in my
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job, in my career, in my life,
where does this journey starts?
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It starts, it all starts with
who you are.
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You can start where you are
right now, completely taking
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100% responsibility of your
life.
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Eight hundred percent
responsibility.
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Don't be the person who blame
other person.
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Blame wife, blame husband, plane
parents live here.
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It's no take 100% responsibility
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In this moment I'm going to be
taking ownership of my life and
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start stepping into the role of
see work.
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I always tell all of my clients
were made.
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You are the CEO of your life.
Nobody else.
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Lot of times people think like
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save me, nobody's going to save
you.
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You're the only person you have
to save yourself, so start where
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you are.
It start with your help.
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Think about the leadership is
not just on the technology on
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the management side.
Are you showing leadership on
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your help?
Ask yourself like a, what are
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the things?
The best leader would do in my
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current situation?
You may be a little overweight,
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maybe a little underweight,
maybe you're going through some
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long term things.
What would this best leader do
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and show that?
There is the best thing.
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The moment you start that
tackling that have problems, lot
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of other problems automatically
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Once you complete the help,
going to the relationship side,
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what is the best leader do in my
relationship relationship with
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your partner relationship, with
your team, members relationship
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with your friends.
What would that person do?
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Am I showing that leadership?
What kind of words that I'm
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using one?
I'm talking to that.
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What kind of language I'm using?
So, what kind of communication
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that I'm sharing this?
Am I sharing this?
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Positive things.
I'm assuring the - thanks.
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Am I doing all the gossips or
I'm an inspiring people?
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That is the second step.
Number 3, go into your career
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and start asking, what would my
longer-term vision looks like,
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do you have a vision for the
next 10 years?
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It's 15 years.
Next, 20 years, spend some time
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ride on.
If you go to a company, all the
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companies, big, big Corporation,
they have their Vision, that's
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reason, they're able to To go at
attack those Visions for you.
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Do you have the vision for
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If you don't guess what?
If there is no target, how do
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you know where to hit that
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Right, so if you don't see
something, you can't hit it.
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So obvious, like a have that
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career and the final final
component, materials about your
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contribution and acting back to
the spiritual, connecting back
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to the superpower.
Why you are here.
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What are you contributing?
Am I just like taking my Life
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For Me?
Maybe?
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world?
It's may not be in the money.
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Maybe.
Knowledge, maybe you're tired,
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maybe resources that you have
with the people on the other
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side of the world, they don't
have those resources.
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all the technology not just on
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the management side, there are
like multiple areas of
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leadership that you can start
implementing and you can start
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seeing that.
And this is, this is, this is
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how you need to balance your
dealership.
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You need to balance your life
and you need to do do more fun
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things.
Yeah, that's great Insight out.
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I'd say the next question.
I want to ask you like, of
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course, we put the foundation.
We know, well the start point is
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but like anything else we need
to be empowered with some tools.
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We need to be empowered with
some, you know, ways to achieve
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this.
So you, you came to something
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very important is actually and I
like to, it's from Simon.
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Cynic, like Define your why,
right?
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So we need to have your why?
So you define your why, and now
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you're going there, what you
would need down the road to
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reach this way.
Jump ship.
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Always remember.
These are light, is almost like
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a buffet when you go to a
buffet.
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If you just go and pick only one
item from the bucket, Buffet,
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every single time, when you go
there, you're not doing Justice
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to the ba ba.
So Buffet means you have so many
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things available to you, so you
need to start experimenting
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things if you are thinking this
is the only part that I have.
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How do you know what are the
things that are available?
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Just take an example of a
mountain bike Mountain Bike.
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Got ten gears 90% of the people
they're using the default gear.
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They don't even know.
There are more dies Available to
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You On That Mountain by.
So start exploring the themes
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ask yourself like what are the
things that It really, really
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brings you happiness and start
spending some time.
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How can I just make this my
bigger purpose in this life?
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How can I make?
Like maybe this like more time
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on this?
How can I spend more energy on
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this?
The moment you start spending
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that in the moment, you start
believing that you're going to
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be finding that if you are
sitting on hands you're not
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moving anywhere.
It is not going to come and fall
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on your lap.
You need to step out of your
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comfort zone you to start taking
those extra steps to see what
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Things that are available to you
in the buffet.
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So the moment you go there, you
will fight those days.
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Yeah, that's that's also great
to hear now, one of the things
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you do vamsee usually is like
other than coaching fellow
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technology and business people
about, you know, leadership.
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So one thing which we discussed
me and you before is regarding,
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you know how to turn.
Their knowledge right to
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something that they we can start
something when they start up.
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Maybe they would offer it as a
service and so on.
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So I'm pretty little bit curious
about, you know, this area that
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that also you work with the with
your clients on, absolutely,
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absolutely.
First of all, I help people to
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break that invisible glass
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Lot of people, they install some
ceiling on their own I think
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like I cannot exceed more than
that more than that.
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So for example you are a manager
or not you're making maybe fifty
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thousand dollars a year, maybe a
hundred thousand dollars a year
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and you think oh it's impossible
for me to go beyond hundred
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fifty thousand dollars a year
who said that that is like a lot
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of times we install it and we
just sit inside the Rocks.
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There are so many people who are
making seven hundred eight
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hundred thousand dollars in
terms of the compensation for
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the same work that you are
doing.
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The moment you start seeing
those possibilities.
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You are not going to be sitting
in the Box, you're going to be
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start.
Seeing the, what can I do?
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What is my next step?
How can I reach there?
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It's not just about the numbers,
it's about the possibilities.
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Same with your help.
What are the things like?
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Lot of people, things, all my
dad has diabetes.
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Madam, my mom, got this.
My grandmother got this.
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I'm going to get this now, you
can change it.
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The moment you start moving on
from that zone like a default
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Zone.
You can Define What about that?
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You want?
So good going into this house.
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Everybody can start doing this
number one thing that I always
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advise all of my clients my
method is visibility is
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profitability.
Visibility is profitability, no
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matter how good you are.
If you are not visible to the
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world, how would somebody go
your talents?
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If my Smith you are sitting in
your garage and Alexei?
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Oh, I don't want to do.
Do this podcast?
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How would World know about you?
The reason like, you and I are
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talking even though 10,000 miles
away a reason because you are
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visible.
And I am visible.
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That is the number one thing.
You need to be visible, no
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matter what you are doing, you
are an engineer or maybe a
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programmer.
You are a manager starts
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showcasing your skills to the
world.
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People will notice that people
will realize, that all there is
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somebody who's locked talented
here.
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So start showing up.
That's that's the fact was, I
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would you tell anyone, you know,
like thank you very much for
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mentioning this and it's kind of
if I can contribute little bit.
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I know like usually I don't talk
when I have guests, but if the
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audience will allow me, and if
you allow me when see about
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showing up, you know, like it's
100% true fact, because you
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might be the most genius.
Hello / programmer in the world,
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you might be the best.
I don't know and Visionary.
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You can you can you know, draw
strategies for for Fortune 100
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companies but no one knows you,
right?
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So if you don't show in front of
people because I'm sharing this
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from my own experience and I
used to just write it on my
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notebook and at used to die.
They write it used to after a
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while.
You know what?
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I'm not doing this.
But really I like to touch on
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this because Cuz this is one of
the things that pushed me also
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to later on, do the podcast is
to encourage other people to do
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the same.
Like don't keep it, don't keep
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it with you, right?
So that's you know, I thank you
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for bringing this and I think
you did the same thing when I'm
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said so because when we
discussed the other type about
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you know, how yourself, you
know, you are in the the itu
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know like and ask people to
working in technology you have
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seen at the introverts and the
Geeks, right?
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They don't and this is would
bring the second question.
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How we can break this?
How we can break that.
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Yeah, like this tech people,
they are introverts, they don't
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have the communication skills.
Some people say, oh, you know
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what?
Like I'm afraid to go and you
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mentioned something now.
So, I need your advice about
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like, how we can break this.
I would say, I call it a virtual
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wall, or like a fiction Airy
wall, how we can break this and
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just go in front.
Out of people.
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Sure.
So the easily to do this, like a
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start something small and start
immediately, don't wait for a
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perfect moment.
If you just like, maybe bought a
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new camera and the first 50
pictures of that camera is not
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going to be that great.
After 50, you're going to get
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beautiful picture, the be 55
even better, maybe hundreds.
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You're going to have a beautiful
life.
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Photograph, coming out from that
camera.
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Same thing with you, your skill,
the first 50 times.
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Nobody's going to be recognizing
you.
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You're not going to be getting
any Applause.
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You're not going to be getting
so many downloads for your
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podcast.
Not going to get any likes for
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your social media.
That's okay.
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But after 55, maybe after 7475
entire wall is noticing who you
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are.
So don't sit like until you are
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percent start.
Now, with the what you have, a
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lot of people other.
I noticed that they wait for
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perfect moment, they wait for
perfect opportunity, guess what?
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There won't be any?
Never be any perfect
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opportunity.
Today is the right time.
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Yes, it is a time and start
something start immediately and
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start small and improve on
maintain that Cadence.
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If you are doing every day.
For example, my math you are
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doing this podcast once a week,
do that every week for the next
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55 weeks.
And that way, you build that
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confidence, after 55 weeks,
you're not going to be the same
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person.
You will be the number one
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forecasters in your town.
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So that's that's how I would
recommend it.
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Yeah.
And just you know, to add on
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what you said.
Cabaye do I am doing daily.
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So this is the, I think you
should be the 72 or 73.
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I'm not sure.
So I do daily and 100% agree.
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And the other thing to your
point.
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I advise everyone about the, you
know, don't wait until you are
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perfect to show up.
There are plenty of examples but
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the ones that came to my mind,
right?
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So if you go and see how Apple
started it, they had this, you
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know, the apple one, it was in a
wooden box, right?
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That was not perfect, right?
And this is something started a
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whole Revolution.
If you think about something
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like Dropbox, I'm not sure if
everyone knows but Dropbox, they
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didn't have even a product when
they showed.
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And what their Vision.
They had just a video and some
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sketches from from the founders,
right?
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So I used to have this problem
myself.
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I want everything to be perfect.
And then I came, you know, I'm
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talking here about four from
technology and Entrepreneurship,
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I was lucky to treat couple of
books.
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You know, that talks exactly
about the same some of them
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related to self development,
some of them related to
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entrepreneurship and yeah, and
everyone knows nowadays.
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The something called agile in
model, whatever you want to call
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it, like, where you you iterate,
you've been something, get
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feedback and then move on,
right?
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Until until you will find.
Because if you keep looking and
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I liked what you said, like it's
consistency, right?
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So, keep repeating.
You might I don't like the word
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fail.
You might not achieve what you
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aim to do.
I don't call it fail and then
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try out of time, right?
So, so, One of them, it will, it
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will, it will work.
Now, finally before we close
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like with you've MC for today,
in this episode, I wanted to
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just, you know, like explain a
little bit about the program
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that you have.
And you know what, the audience
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can expect, if they want to
reach out to you, what is inside
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the program that you run and
what are the outcomes that they
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could expect?
Absolutely absolutely.
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So I have Along different levels
and different stages of their
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Journey.
So, the very first program, I
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mention here that is called
personal Leadership Academy.
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So, this is for the people who
install that invisible glass
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ceiling on their own and they're
thinking, oh, it's very tough
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for me to become a manager.
It's very tough for me to become
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a leader of this organization
that personal Leadership Academy
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is the great place to start.
We eliminate like a so many
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things from that and so show the
possibilities.
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The second program that I
recommend for people is called
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communication accelerator, this
is the program where every
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person should go through.
No matter where you are, you are
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a programmer or your CEO of a
company, because the coach all
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the people in the in the
hierarchy.
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So through communication
accelerator, you become a better
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Communicator.
It's not about the skills that
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you have on your college degrees
or like, maybe on your resume.
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It's about like how you are
communicating The skills, how
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you're communicating your words
to the world.
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So I highly recommend people
will start looking up like a
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personality Academy is for
communication access later
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programs and they are available.
Like if you go and Google my
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name, maybe Matthew can drop my
LinkedIn profile.
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Should, I will the show notes,
they'll find us things.
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And a lot of times, we offer
these trainings for free.
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So look-ups for the links and
you can sign up for the free
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trainings and you can you can
yeah.
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Join one of those trainings.
And if you really wanted to work
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on that for 3 months, 6 months,
1 year, there are programs
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available and delete help people
to achieve their 10-year
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progress, then your goals in
less than 12 months.
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Wow, that's really impressive.
Well, 13, I really, really
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appreciate your time today.
It's like, I know it's early
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morning for you still.
It was really insightful.
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I hope that also the audience,
whether they're going to listen
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to it or watch, it will find it.
Useful.
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And helpful, I will be dropping
the a LinkedIn profile of
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Ramses.
If you want to connect with him
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and you can find also his
website also as well.
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And again thank you very much
for MC for your time today.
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Any final thank you to say
before we close.
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So one thing to everyone start
before you are ready stock
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before you are very Wow, that's
that's really nice to hear from
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you.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you for you.
All the audience who tuned in to
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listen to this episode today, as
usual, if you are watching it
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through YouTube, don't forget to
subscribe and share.
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Also the knowledge with others.
If you are listening over the
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Spotify or apple podcast or any
other podcast platform, again,
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don't forget to follow us.
And as usual and I are repeating
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this and I'm insisting on this.
If you have any questions, if
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you have any feedback about
whether this episode all the
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show in general, I would be more
than happy to listen to them.
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You can reach out to me by
email.
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You can find me on LinkedIn and
Twitter.
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I would be more than happy if
you want to come to the show.
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You have an idea.
I'm again, very open to talk to
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you and have the discussion.
Thank you very much and until we
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meet and the Step is owed by.
