March 8, 2023

#56 From Problem Solver to Thought Leader: Building Your Personal Brand

#56 From Problem Solver to Thought Leader: Building Your Personal Brand

In this episode, I sit down with Nicky Billou, #1 International Best Selling Author and highly inspirational speaker, to discuss how to go from being a problem solver to a thought leader in your industry. We explore the process of starting a business by solving problems, going from narrow to broad, and how differentiating yourself, and building your personal brand. Nicky shares valuable insights on becoming a thought leader, drawing from examples such as Steve Jobs, and discusses how to activate profitable relationships by serving your network.


Find more about Nicky here:

https://www.ecircleacademy.com/

https://www.thethoughtleaderrevolution.com/


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Hello and welcome to a new
episode of the CTO show with

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Muhammad.
My name is Muhammad, I share

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daily insights about the latest
news and Trends in technology

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while exploring their
problem-solving abilities.

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But as you know, I also talked
about startups and entrepreneurs

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behind the Donut of products and
services and today with me on

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the show is nickyloo.
Who is joining me live from

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Canada?
Where Nicky will share with us.

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Some insights about Out
entrepreneurship about thought

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leadership, as well, and how you
can differentiate yourself in

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the marketplace and without
further Ado, so, Nikki I want

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you to introduce yourself.
And by the way, Nick used to

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live here in the Middle East in
Dubai, so maybe he would be a

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familiar face to some, who'd
watch later.

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But yeah.
Please, Nicki introduce yourself

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and welcome to the show again.
Remember, thanks for having me

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on the show, it's an honor to be
here with you, my friend.

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I'm actually originally from
Iran and my family left Iran

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about a year and a bit.
After the revolution, we went

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to, to the Mediterranean to
Greece, we lived in Athens and

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then we moved to Canada.
And then while I was in Canada,

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I went to a few places for, for
school.

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And for work, I went to the
states for school and I came to

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Dubai for work.
My father, I was always an

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entrepreneur, you know, he was
an uplifter of people he

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believed in people, he would
always say, to me, Nicky life is

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about people, it's not about
money, you must always remember

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this and always say, to me, even
business is about people, it's

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not about money, you must always
remember this.

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And all you do in business, is
you solve problems for people

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for profit.
You saw acute problems for

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really good people.
Awesome people for a wonderful

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and amazing.
Fit right, people problems

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profit.
And I really really love that my

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father taught me this and I love
the example that he gave to me,

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because it's my belief that
successful entrepreneurship at

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the end of the day is about
finding problems that are not

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solved, you know, and solving
them.

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That's that's, that's truly what
it's all about.

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And here's one thing about being
in business that I learned from

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coming from an entrepreneurial
family, there's a lot of people

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that are good people People that
are in business, you know what,

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I mean, they're good at what
they do.

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They may be good at technology.
That may be good at, you know,

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building things, but they're not
necessarily good business

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people.
They don't have the background

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to understand how to actually
create the structure of a

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powerful business.
They don't understand marketing

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and sales, they don't understand
hiring and firing, they don't

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understand.
Financial statements, like

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balance sheets, income
statements and cash flow

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statements.
They don't understand customer

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service.
They don't understand Building

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Systems and Sessions and
structures.

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And HR they don't understand
exit strategies, if they want to

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sell their company and get out
of there at some point, it's

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it's one of those things you
know, and I noticed this.

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And so that's why I got into
business myself because I

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thought I could help these
people and the tool areas that

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you know the three areas I
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I saw that people were having
the trouble that I really felt.

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I could make a difference one or
sales and marketing and And

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culture.
So, you know sales.

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Well, the problem was sales for
some people is they they're a

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little bit nervous about
appearing.

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Pushy appearing, you know,
salesy.

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They don't want to be one of
those people that as soon as you

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walk in the room you can smell
the commission breath on them.

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You know what I mean?
They don't want to do that late

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but that's you know, that's good
and Noble intention.

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But the problem is, if you do
that, then you're going to fail

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at something very, very
important.

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And that is a getting customers,
you legitimately should get.

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So your business suffers and
those customers they could use

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you, they could use your help.
So they suffer because they

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don't get your help and then
somebody else, you know, is

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maybe a bit of a charlatan
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He's going to go and get those
customers and that deliver

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anything for them.
So you know what I mean?

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Everybody suffers except maybe
the charlatans who makes money

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by tell everybody else Shoppers
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So I could see this and I
thought I'm I want to help these

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good people and what I realize
is a lot of people have a

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problem with the word sales, so
I thought let's reframe the word

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sales from sales to service.
Nobody likes to be sold to but

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everybody likes to be served.
So if you think of it as serving

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somebody and you come from a
service mentality and you rewire

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your thinking, that could be
really powerful for you.

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So we taught people how to do
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Obviously didn't happen
overnight.

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I can't just tell you, hey, stop
thinking of sales.

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Thank me.
You have service.

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Yep, that's done.
It doesn't work like that but

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you work with people you help
them rewire their thinking and

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over a period of time it will
work beautiful, things happen

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and that was the first thing
that we were able to do

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successfully.
People, you know what I'm

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saying?
Mammoth.

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Yeah, that's that's great.
And you know I face this

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challenge myself because I came
from a technology, pure

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technology background and then
at some times, I had to do the

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sales, right?
So yeah, and I was thinking the

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same way because when someone
was coming to me trying to sell

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me something else?
Yeah, this guy is, he's waiting

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for my cash, right?
But it's not, it's not it's not

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the case.
Indeed, now when I was, you

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know, doing my research has also
like And I was impressed by the

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work you do.
Honestly, Nicki and you talk

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about specific.
I'm you know I'm seeing this

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type of what I'm calling
solopreneurs.

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People who want to start maybe
one person company and then

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maybe they will grow.
My question is, and based on

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something I read through your
articles and what you shared

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about first going narrow and
then later on, they could

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broaden.
What's your advice and your take

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on this?
Well, I'm glad you asked.

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That question is very good
question.

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So here's the situation, right,
when people go into business

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right at first, they think,
well, I can't go narrow, because

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I'll lose out.
I got to show I can do anything

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for anybody.
The problem is that you really

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can't and people won't trust
you.

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If you come to somebody and go.
Need help with your sales.

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I'm your guy need help with your
Fitness.

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I'm your guy need help with your
finances.

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I'm your guy need help with your
marriage on your dad.

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Come on man.
No One's Gonna trust your

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believe me.
You know what I mean?

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You, you really need to to
really focus people like to work

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with Specialists.
Think about it in the world of

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doctors, okay.
You have a family doctor, for

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sure.
But if you have a heart attack,

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you're going to go see him and
you know, to see a cardiologist.

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Right now, you're going to go
see the cardiologist, you need

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specialist.
You will do better when you go

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narrow because more people in
that narrow area will be

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interested in working with you,
rather than let's go big and

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let's help anybody and
everybody.

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So, you know, we talked about
this, right?

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Like when you want to be
somebody in business who

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successful, you can choose to be
an expert or you can choose to

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be a thought leader.
Now, an expert is somebody who

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knows something?
Okay, but experts are a dime, a

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dozen everybody and his brother
An expert in these days.

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But if our leader is someone
who's known for knowing

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something thought leaders are
rare and valuable.

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You follow what I'm saying?
Mammoth.

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Yes I thought leader is somebody
that is sought after, right?

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A thought leader has taken the
time to think three what it is

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that they're supposed to be an
expert about their somebody

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who's taken the time to codify
their knowledge.

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So did An example.
This is an example of.

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Some intellectual property I
developed.

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This is a whole folder on an
arena that I'm very interested

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in, which is, you know, the
whole world of sleep

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deprivation.
So I've got one on sleep

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deprivation.
I've got one on energy, I've got

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one on high performance.
Inside here, we're going to have

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30 40 of these pieces of
intellectual property.

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This is the basis for a
commercial Enterprise. 20 of

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these can be chapters from the
book, ten of these can be

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coaching program, right?
And three of these can be a

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three-day Workshop, you follow
what I'm saying.

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And when I focus in a particular
way, Up.

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And I start to put my expertise
out there in the world and say,

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look, this is the arena.
This is what we're doing.

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This is what it's all about, and
people listen to it.

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And they go, oh, this is
valuable, this is interesting.

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Then there's people that are
really suffering from a problem

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in that Arena and I'm going to
say, I like this, I want this.

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So let me give you an example of
a client that I worked with.

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This client was a young man and
he was a health and fitness

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coach.
So if you were overweight, you

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know, you were wanting to get
stronger, whatever he worked

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with you.
So, when I met him, I liked him.

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He was a nice man, but just
didn't understand business.

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Understood Fitness, understood
all of that, but business, no

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clue.
He had seven clients, right?

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He made 13. $100 a month, like,
ridiculously stupid below amount

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of money, Toronto, where I live.
It's an expensive city.

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It's almost as expensive as do
I.

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So twelve thirteen hundred
dollars a month is not going to

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really cut it.
So I met him when I go hey his

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name was Dan.
I said Dan.

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Tell me, who is your ideal
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And he said I can work with
anybody.

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I'm like, no, no, you need an
ideal customer, is it?

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No, but really, I can work with
anybody.

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If they want to lose weight.
I can help them.

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If they want to put on muscle, I
can help them and I'm like body.

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No he says listen I can do it
all.

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I said you want to work with
anybody with a wallet and a

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pulse.
It sounds like and he's like hey

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that's so funny so well I guess
so I'm trying to make money.

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I said no brother.
You must have A narrow Focus.

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He said, okay, okay, so he comes
to me goes what about if I work

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with doctors with doctors?
Why doctors so well, my dad my

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dad is a doctor and I love my
dad.

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Like, okay, that's nice.
You said, plus doctors, they

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make a lot of money like, oh my
God.

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I remember my father says Tippy
about the money.

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No, nobody.
No, no, you can't do that

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because I'm gonna do it.
I'm like, you hired me to coach

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you.
You're not going to listen to me

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because I'm going to try this.
All right, didn't work.

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Turns out going to a doctor and
saying you make a lot of money

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come work with me not a great
message, right?

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So comes back to me goes, okay,
what do I do?

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I said, well, you need an actual
narrow Focus.

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That's not, you know, about
doctors.

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He said, okay now are he says,
okay?

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Okay, what about cardiologist
colleges?

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You know, that make more money?
The doctors are like, oh my God,

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you're not understanding the
whole point.

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I'm trying to make you because
I'm going to go after

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cardiologist, I'm like body.
I'm Your coach listen to me.

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Nope.
It didn't work.

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He didn't get any clients.
You know but God has a

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mysterious way of working with
people Mammoth, you know what I

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mean.
Cap.

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So the good Lord said to him No
to these ideas but he sent him a

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man with a missing leg who was a
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the paralympic games that really
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They did good work together and
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competitions.
Anyone Metals, it was great.

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And then Dan comes to me, very
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says, oh my God, Mickey I'm an
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What?
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didn't listen.
You said don't laugh till the

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money.
You said, go up to helping

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people.
I didn't listen.

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He said now I get it.
I said good.

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He said, I think I want to help
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I really want to help and I'm
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great actually and so You know,
guys with missing limbs.

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He put it out there Mehmet in
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Clients how for him.
He went from twelve thirteen

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hundred dollars a month to over
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Now, I don't know how much, you
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coaching.
They don't make that much money

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in two years.
Never mind in one month.

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You know what I need and why?
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going after the money anymore,
he wanted to help a group of

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people but secondly, He picked
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Nobody else was trying to help
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workout.
Nobody, they all thought they

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got missing limbs, they can't
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He knew better.
His message was You have a

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missing limb.
You don't think you can work

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out.
You don't think you're as

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capable as a person who has all
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I'm here to tell you, you can
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You are as capable, and I'm
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you.
You can imagine how that's a

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powerful message, right?
Very strong.

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And that message landed for
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They loved it and so they sign
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it.
That's the power of going narrow

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and not focusing on the money so
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be a successful entrepreneur.
It's remember, it's about people

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as Solving problems for them.
Secondly, it's about going

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narrow and being known as the
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the authority as the thought
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Not trying to be all things to
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Yeah.
You know this is very inspiring.

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I would say now and you know for
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a while now, I'm by the way, new
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So I always talk about this that
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Sometimes out.
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even when because my speciality
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the aim is helping what the
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You know having pain with right.
That's not like the nice windows

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and you know colors of website
know like it's not the case and

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this is really resonated with
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it even in you know give me some
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now.
So yeah, like really, really

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good.
But now back to going on the

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narrow, you talked about thought
leadership and thought

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leadership is not something
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So it's something that you need
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you reach that.
So if you can little bit share

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about this one like how someone
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as a thought leadership?
So, so when, when someone will

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deserve this thought leadership
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Yes.
Well, I'm glad you asked the

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question.
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answers and the points we've
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factors of becoming a thought
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You you have to, first of all,
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wanting to solve a problem for
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A lot of people think, thought
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professor at University, maybe,
but no, in the context of what

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we're talking about, which is
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And success thought leadership
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people who need your help..
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It's about solving problems for
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Because when you solve a problem
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to a profit, right?
Secondly thought leadership is

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about finding a way to stand out
and not be like everybody else

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for the example of this young
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Dan God's thought leadership.
But thirdly, you must understand

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a couple other things about
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Thought leadership is not about
you thought leadership is about

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them.
All leadership is not about you,

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it's not about how awesome you
are.

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It's not about how awesome your
program is, sorry.

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But that if that's what you
thought it was, but leadership

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is about who you help how you
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And it's about helping people
understand that what you do is

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of use to them, you have to be
useful to them people when they

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make a investment decision to
purchase a service or Granite.

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They're not buying their way
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They're buying their way out of
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They're not buying the way into
you and into your program, and

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your awesome methodology.
They're buying their way out of

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the pain.
They can't stand anymore.

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I must understand this.
If you don't understand this,

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you are not a thought leader.
You're a thought follower.

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And that's a big difference, a
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that leadership is about them,
serving them, finding out what

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it is that they're concerned
about Yeah, that's it.

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That's it.
If what you're doing is not

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important enough to be focused
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it's an ego trip to say, oh,
look at how great I am.

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Look at how amazing my
methodology is.

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Look at, look at how wonderful
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Let me tell you more about me.
Nobody cares about you.

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Nobody cares about your
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Nobody cares about your product.
Look it's a fact you know you

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know why people buy Apple.
The Apple is not as popular as

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it once was but when it was
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everybody wanted an iPhone
Everybody thinks.

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Oh, it's because the iPhone
looking all the amazing things.

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The iPhone get no, it was not
because the damn iPhone, it's

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because having an iPhone made
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themselves.
That's it.

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When the iPhone came out in
2007, the people who bought the

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iPhone thought about themselves.
I'm unique, I'm different.

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I'm somebody who seeks the
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and important.
And in their mind why that was

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important was because I didn't
really believe that at one point

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they wanted to be that but
they're like, oh my God, there's

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nothing special about me.
If people only knew I'm an

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imposter, I'm a loser.
Those kinds of thoughts went

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through their heads.
Steve Jobs brilliantly,

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understood this brilliantly.
Captured it in the marketing

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that he Did with apple.
It is my belief if Steve Jobs

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had lived that not passed away.
Apple right now would continue

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to be the most Innovative
company in history would

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continue to have ways of
satisfying, that message that

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currently.
It's not doing people that are

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buying apple right now are doing
it out of a residual loyalty to

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jobs, rather than because apple
is still the most Innovative

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company in the world.
Apple is not that Innovative

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anymore.
It is not focused on people the

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way it was, but hey, it has a
residual basis of people who

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still love it because of Steve
Jobs, and that's a testament to

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thought leadership.
Steve, Jobs was a thought

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leader, Steve Jobs has Brand as
the founder of Apple, and as the

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man who was in charge of Apple,
was infused with apple, but it

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was bigger than Apple.
And if people wanted to learn

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from jobs, they wanted to be
like jobs.

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They wanted to be that kind of
human being they I need to get

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away from the pain of not being
successful, not feeling good

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about themselves jobs.
Did this jobs was a thought,

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leader, if you own a company
right now if it's a technology

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company puts a construction
company and you want to be the

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Steve Jobs of your company, it's
very possible, it's very doable.

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How do you do it?
Simple really, very simple.

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Okay, you got to be somebody who
is going to go out there and

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say, I'm going to create Ran for
myself.

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I'm going to have my expertise
come out, and if you don't know

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how to do it, then you need to
come and talk to me or someone

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like me to show you what to do
and how to do it.

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It's not as simple as saying.
Okay, I'm going to create a

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YouTube channel and that's good
enough.

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No, no, you need to have gotten
your messaging done, right?

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You need to of understood how
people are going to benefit from

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it.
And why the hell they should

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listen to you?
Because if you're like a lot of

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CEOs and all you do is put sales
garbage out there on your

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YouTube channel.
No one's going to listen, it's a

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waste of your time and you know,
wasting your money.

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Black, you came to the point
that I wanted actually to ask,

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and you answered me.
But just because you mentioned

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Steve Jobs.
And we were talking about

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thought, leadership my advice to
everyone if you didn't yet, I'm

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not sure if there's someone
still didn't read the biography

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of Steve Jobs you a because I
added the second time just I

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finish it last week and I always
come back to it and the reason I

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come back, 24 people things but
how he was so obsessed in

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serving the customers and even
if the customer doesn't know

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what he wants, and I always
remembered this, you know, like

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you need to come up with
something that the customer

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doesn't know.
And the second thing is the way

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he believed, how it's important
to have the brand, right?

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So so because if there's even a
famous video, what he's talking

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about, he's comparing Nike and
how When you say Nike it's like

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you know you don't think only
come with it as the community

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of.
So you think about great a

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performance and great Athletics.
Yeah absolutely and this is the

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whole, you know, actually
campaign think different that he

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launched it was.
I think I walk in technology and

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I never seen a more impactful
and like really it's deep

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thinking.
Yeah so actually you you took

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the second question because I
wanted to ask you about the

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brand And because my thoughts
and correct me if I'm wrong, I

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think it will become more and
more crucial to build your

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personal brand because it's a
very crowded place and you need

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really to differentiate
yourself.

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So, so what, what do you advise
younger people, someone who is

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in this entrepreneurship journey
to do to build their personal

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rights?
First and foremost.

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I would suggest that they buy
one of my books, it's called The

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Thought leaders Journey I've
written and published 9 books.

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But this one is really all about
how to create a powerful

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personal brand.
Wow.

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You follow what I'm saying here?
Yeah.

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And what I want to get someone
to understand out of doing the

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work of this book is that There
are 15 principles that are in

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here, right?
Go in here and read the book.

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It's a twenty dollar
Investments.

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It's very simple and very
straightforward.

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Second thing I want to tell you
is I have a podcast called the

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thought leader Revolution.
It's all around how to create a

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powerful thought leader, Brian
and build a powerful personal

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brand for yourself.
It's my opinion that everybody

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should listen to the episodes of
that show.

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Learn from the thought leaders
that we have them.

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Understand.
Understand first and foremost

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though that You need to.
You need to know who you are and

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what you stand for.
And that's not easy to figure

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out especially when you're
younger.

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There's a lot of noisiness out
there in the world that confuses

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you and, you know, being on
these bloody devices for as long

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as people are, these days, makes
it hard for people to think that

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through, but you need to know
who you are and what you stand

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for. and if you can understand
who you are and what you stand

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for, Then you can create a
powerful message around that and

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then start to broadcast that
message in the work that you do,

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in the podcast that you run, you
know, in books that you write.

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And in the help that you offer
to clients.

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But we live in a time limit
where people people are a little

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bit soft.
There are member of generation

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soft that call it.
They don't want to sit down and

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do the hard work.
They wanted to come easily to

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them then and it's not going to
work, it's not going to work.

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You got to do things that are
out of your comfort zone.

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You got to push yourself and
you've got to hire coaches and

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mentors.
If you don't have coaches and

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mentors, you're screwed.
You're screwed Robin, Sharma,

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the great Robin Sherman, you
know, Robin Sharma, you know who

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he is, right?
Of course.

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Well, he was my client.
I know if you knew this but

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Robin Sharma was my client, he
lives in my city.

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In Toronto, I used to be a top
fitness coach.

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He was my client and there was a
time when Robin You know, said

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something profound to me.
He said to me, Nicky if you ever

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want to double your income in a
Year, triple your investment in

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personal and professional
development.

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I'm like, what?
Triple your investment in

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personal and professional
development.

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I was like, oh, okay.
I listened to him and it worked.

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Most people don't understand
this.

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You have to hire coaches and
mentors.

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Yeah, and it pay what it?
What it takes to work with them,

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you have to join Peter groups
and masterminds and pay what it

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costs to be a part of them.
You have to attend conferences

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and pay what it costs to go to
them.

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You have to buy courses and pay
what it costs to buy them.

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You have to buy books and read
books, and pay what it costs,

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not just in money, but in time
and an energy and focus Robin

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Shou, Melissa said focus is more
valuable than money and he's

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right.
You got to focus on success and

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you know, I had a client.
She came to me this woman.

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Her name was Adele like a
singer, right?

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And she had spent a hundred and
twenty-five thousand dollars on

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the wrong coaches and mentors on
these charlatans 40 return, her

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husband was so upset.
He said, honey, you can't do

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this work really well and she's
like, okay, but she was so upset

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because she knew she had
something good there.

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So what she came to us, I knew
what she was doing wrong.

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I knew she was fired.
Hi, you know, working with the

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wrong people.
I said, look, we can help you.

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Just come sit with us and we'll
get you there.

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And the first thing I had to do
was narrower Focus.

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Second thing I had to do was get
in front of people that already

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knew her and start pitching
start talking about how she can

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help them.
She was making less than two

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thousand dollars a month.
And he like, 12 months she was

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making twenty thousand dollars a
month.

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Wow, that was a month year over
year where before she worked

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with us, she made $500 after she
worked with us, she made fifty

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two thousand dollars in one
month.

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That's a hundredfold increase
two zeros because she had the

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right coaches and mentors and
she was in a peer group.

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If you are a young person and
you're not investing in

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yourself, shame on, you start
investing yourself right away.

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It's very, very, very important
hunt and the percent and

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actually, you know, and some
people they said me how come you

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can embrace yourself.
I said it's not embracing myself

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either the mistake when I was
younger because I was not

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investing in books masterminds
and these things now recently,

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and by the way, it was because
of Route One of Robinson Book

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The Five AM Club.
You know they say it like some

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book can change lives yet.
Can definitely it can and

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actually I enrolled in his
mentorship online Mentor Coast

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was covid at that time, believe
it or not, that it had a huge

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impact on me.
Like I can I can tell you this

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and also like even II bought the
other book that he released last

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year the everyday hero
Manifesto.

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It's also like a great Look to
read and yeah, like things that

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doesn't happen and he advised by
the way in the 5 a.m. club like

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and he goes on the method that
you need a, as you said, a coach

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for Fitness, a coach for
finance, a coach for, like, for

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every aspect of five because you
cannot at the end of the, do it

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all by yourself, right?
As the time is running out,

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Nikki like any final message.
You want to say, by the way, I

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will be sharing the link for For
Nikki's podcast, I will share

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also his website if you want to
get in touch with him.

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And also like I'm lucky to have
Nikki today because he wrote a

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lot of books.
So I will share also that with

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you as well.
So Nikki just in one minute or

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two your final thoughts.
So this is my final thought.

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If you want to be successful,
you need four qualities.

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The first to decisiveness, you
have to make a decision that you

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want to be successful.
You can't be a tire kicker, you

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follow me.
You can't.

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Just go, I'm going to kick a
timer and you know, but I'm not,

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you know, you have to say I'm in
it to win it.

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That's that.
You have to make a commitment.

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That's the second quality.
Okay.

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Commit commit, when you commit,
you say I'm in it.

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I'm willing to be bad before.
I'm good.

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Every master was once a
disaster.

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You have to commit.
You have to be bad before your

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mediocre before your Average,
before your decent before your

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good, before your great before
your iconic before you're the

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best that ever was, that is
commitment.

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Thirdly, you have to be
coachable.

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You have to take coaching from
people.

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Other than yourself, you have to
have multiple coaches.

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I have six coaches, I work with
right now. 66 coaches, and then

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fourthly my friend fourthly.
And this is very, very powerful.

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You have to be resourceful.
It doesn't matter how much money

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you have.
If it doesn't want to have it,

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what resources, you have?
What matters is, how bad do you

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want change?
How bad do you want, you?

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And how ready are you for
victory?

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If you're ready for victory and
your night tire kicker, I'm

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going to do you some massive
favor.

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I'm going to give you 45 minutes
of my time for free.

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Till I take a look at what is
the change that you badly want?

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And I'm going to give you a free
blueprint to do it.

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Go to East Circle and
academy.com /r appointment take

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advantage of that.
But only do it if you want

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00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,200
change back, I don't want to
talk to you if your tire kicker

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and I want to talk to you, if
you're uncertain, if you want

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change bad, we'll have that
conversation and that's it.

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That's my final piece of advice.
Well, thank you very much Nikki

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for.
You know, it was like very rich.

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I would say, like, one of the
richest in, in content wise

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because it's full of advices for
four people.

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Thank you very much.
And for my Listeners viewers

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wherever you are.
I hope you will find this

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episode.
Like it's a really special one

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00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:51,100
for me because I was lucky to
have Nicky with with us today

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and until we meet next time,
thank you very much.