#63 A fireside chat with Luis Contreras on how to leverage Augmented Reality to drive social change

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Hello to this episode of the CTO
show with Muhammad.

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As you know, usually I cover
latest trends inside strategies

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in, topics, like cybersecurity,
digital transformation, emerging

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Tech.
But as, you know, sometimes I

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bring also entrepreneurs and
thought leaders, innovators to

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tell us little bit about what
they are doing and to talk a

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little bit about the
applications or the technology

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that they are bringing in.
And I'm very happy today to have

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with me on to show Luis
Contreras.

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Who's joining me from the US?
Lois, can you introduce yourself

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to the audience?
What what, what you've been

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doing?
And, you know, a little bit

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about your latest company that
you started.

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Yes.
Yeah, my name is Luis, Contreras

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founder.
CEO of you on mobile app, you

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know, I'm very excited this
project that we're doing is

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coming to life.
We were it's a mobile app that's

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I see it as a utility up.
The whole idea behind this

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started as a dating app in the
augmented space.

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So what I had this idea, you
know, me being, you know, going

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into this new Venture, I thought
to myself.

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Before I started like, let's go
after these Hides.

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Right?
So I had a little bit of a

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different approach.
My career is always been

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Fortune, 500 working for a
company.

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So I had this idea for augmented
reality app that was the premise

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was around dating, right?
Because I was looking at things

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that were missing in the world
and I think about it as a

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friend, right?
You have the capability also in

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this app to pick a designated
driver, right?

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So you have somebody in a group,
does it be responsible for the

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others?
So you use like a geolocation to

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put put on this area for a
certain amount of time.

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If any one of your party members
is out of the area, it will

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notify you and you have the
chance to see them be augmented

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reality.
So the D idea started from there

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and it really just kind of
escalated so there's a lot of

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different use cases for it.
Like for the dating platform.

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Originally we thought it was
going to be like an algorithm

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that you're going to be able to
use to find your match and we

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still have that built-in and
we're excited.

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Because this is the original
idea but we're not launching

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this part of it until phase two
of our launch.

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So for Phase 1, we're taking
that technology and right now I

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don't know if you ever use like
the iPhone somebody sends their

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location to you.
Have you seen that it'll it'll

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send you their location and the
location of send you like say if

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you go into a restaurant it'll
send you to the parking lot but

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it won't go any further.
All right.

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So I think that's where our
technology is the missing link

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and even building is my
development.

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And team was excited because
they're building it from

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scratch, there's nothing really
else to go off of.

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So our technology is that
Missing Link when you when you

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open this session so think about
it like a FaceTime call like

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we're having right now.
Yeah.

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The only way to see each other
is going to be that if you

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approve it and I approve it.
So it's going to link our

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session and what you're going to
have an augmented view toward

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the other person is and they
could see you.

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And it's going to be represented
by this dot.

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It's kind of like a dot m logo.
So the dot shows in the middle

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of the screen, And is going to
is actually going to move

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depending on where the other
person is.

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So you're going to move your
phone and it will show you a

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narrow and distance to the other
person.

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And and the reason you know I
love this technology being that,

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you know, I'm very social.
I like to beat it with friends

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and other couples and lights and
network.

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So using this like on a, whether
you're at a restaurant and you

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want to find with other party
is, will you meet them outside?

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And you guys beat in a big
Plaza, you'll have first person

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to ask Access to that other
person location.

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You guys are both able to see
each other and just a limited

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time.
But through this process, we've

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been able to see that you could
use this for so much more.

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So part of the project also
looks to help people suffering

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from dementia and Alzheimer's.
So if you have somebody you know

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right now we have it with the
mobile phone but it's going to

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expand into the mobile watch.
So like Apple watch or the

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Galaxy watch.
And the reason we're so excited

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about that is I think about All
the times that you're at home,

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right?
And and you have a loved one and

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they might be going through you
know an episode and they're

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leaving the house and you don't
know.

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So now what we provide is a
geolocation for the certain

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amount of hours and you get a
notification and with GPS when

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you're, when you're trying to
find somebody who's like, you

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know, or you're trying to get
out of a stadium, right?

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The GPS will sometimes is going
to kind of throw you off because

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it's not really giving you any
directs to till you're out.

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Of the building and even though
it seems like a very small,

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simple piece of technology.
It's so big because I always say

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I just want to use augmented
reality to enhance everyday

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experiences.
So when you pop up all we really

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need is to be pointed in the
right direction and that's kind

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of what we what we do when we
focus on so whether it's your

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loved one that you're trying to
find or like a child, your

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child, you know, and goes out of
the area and you're able to to

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find exactly where they are, you
know, compared to GPS.

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Because we all know that there's
Life 360 or the capability of

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sharing that with your, with,
your loved ones.

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But, you know, the parents are
really focused on augmented

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reality in the deal fence and
you use that for multiple people

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and we built it for a group as
well because, you know that in

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business you might have
somebody's information but you

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don't want to share your
location, you know, throughout

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all this time, for somebody with
just business.

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But what about if you just do it
for this?

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One of their Right, and you say,
we're going to meet each other.

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This restaurant within the
plaza, right?

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Is a huge moth.
So you guys are check-in.

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It's going to give you a group
code, so you're not sharing your

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personal information.
Everybody receives a group code.

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The one person you pick is that
person that's going to be, you

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know, the main one seeing
everything, or you can pick

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multiple and when you get there,
it'll give you a notification.

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You're like, you will send a
notification to somebody and

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say, hey, you're trying to view
your area.

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So it picks up like FaceTime
call.

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And then you hit a Prove.
And now you guys are both able

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to see each other.
The good thing about it is

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you're not going to have to need
another product or a wearable

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whether you use it for the
social networking.

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Social networking, I think is
interesting, is a whole new

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Different Twist.
You're going to be able to

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create a like a geolocation
around a certain event, right?

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And you're going to start it and
you're going to put your status

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symbols.
So, the status symbols could be.

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I meant, I'm in the film
industry.

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I'm working in financial, I'm
working on.

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Tech.
So, you know, within this

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parameter people say, Okay, I
want to be part of this event

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and now it's going to give you
the capability of, you know,

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really networking.
So most social media having your

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apps really focus on when you're
at home.

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And what I was thinking about
what was needed, I go, I think

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there's, I think there's a lot
needed for people to connect

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when they leave, right?
And that Missing Link,

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especially with this generation,
most people are very

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career-oriented.
They barely have time to meet

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anyone There's already so many
different versions of the same

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app when it comes to dating when
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everything is really built for
home.

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There's nothing really built for
you to meet people.

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So within this world that we're
creating, if you have an event,

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or if you have street art or
anything that you want to show

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in this augmented world, you're
going to be able to do that and

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touch, so many more people
because you're not going to be

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required, to use the goggles.
You're going to be required to

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use the lenses or anything
that's coming out.

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Now, we are going to be
transferring, you know, the app,

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whenever those glasses do come,
so you'll have the capability

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there.
But, you know, we just want to

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be able to have the technology
available.

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I think that's why the project
came out earlier than we

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anticipated because there's such
a huge necessity.

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You know, when it comes to like
moments, where you see a,

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there's an emergency or you have
a loved one, like, think about

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the capability to know exactly
where they're at.

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Sometimes there is no address to
send them to and sometimes you

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have to be on the move.
With our technology.

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It's a lot quicker than GPS.
A GPS is always rerouting you to

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the moment gives you directions.
And if you're moving, there's

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going to be that large time with
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It's just a direct connect.
And the the fun part was being

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able to get the tech and make
the tech for short-range long

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range is the easy one short
range on a cell phone because if

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you think about it there's
nothing else that really shows

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directionality when it comes to
your phone and being able to

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create that with the team that
was fascinating.

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Wow.
You know, like you are talking

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and I was like, just also
imagining.

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How many use cases as you have
touched in just one simple

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application I would say now,
which phase you are in in the

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project like to have, like,
active users today or like, is

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it, are we still in the
prototyping phase?

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Well, now we built we built the
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So we're the biggest thing for
us was because the technology

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didn't exist.
So that was the biggest hurdle

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to make sure We were able to
really perfect that.

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So we built that we're actually
going to go commercial with our

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launch next month.
And in the next couple of days,

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we started Kickstarter.
It's a little bit untraditional,

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generally with kick starters,
you start going early.

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Just when you have the idea of
what you want to do, but you

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know, with this project, I was
able to give some, you know,

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some small investors right now
to build but mostly was on, just

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on myself, I had this idea and I
said, you know what, I lot of

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things came together at the
right time.

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To bring this to life.
And I think that's the part that

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was so interesting.
It was all about perfect timing.

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So, you know, now we're, we're
45 years.

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When I really started thinking
about all these ideas, I got the

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approval for the patents about a
year and a half ago, and my

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development team had started
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And from from now, the proof of
concept we were able to get

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within about three to four
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It took a little bit longer.
Like I said, Apple doesn't

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really have anything to go off
of me, or do we need to do?

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Are Android because there's
nobody else with this type of

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Vapp.
So our team was working from

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scratch to get it.
What are the other things I

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didn't touch on and this is one
of the parts that were rolling

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out for phase one is and this
one I think is warlike identity.

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The identity of the app when I
what I really think about I love

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all the other features because
all other free features to me

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our utility and this one is
what's makes it more of a social

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media.
So you know like right now when

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you go through Instagram or
Facebook and you take a picture,

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most of the time is going to tag
you to like the city, right?

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Like if you're like in Dubai,
you could put Dubai if you're

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like, you know, in California
and you're like Los Angeles you

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could Los Angeles and the tanks,
maybe the beach.

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Beach or the city but we focus
more on geolocation.

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So and we think about it like
you're we call it leaving a

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mark, right?
And like what's more important

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than leaving a mark right for
you and for your loved ones and

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you know, I think about, you
know, this project and my career

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and all the things that I would
love to pass down to my my kids,

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you know, I have a son and
daughter and, and their special

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memories that I also share with
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I think about camping, so
wouldn't it be more?

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Show that if you take a picture
and you could actually put the

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exact location where that
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Now there's there's ways of
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If you like put the specific
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Instagram or like wherever you
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even Google, right?
But there's no, it's not really

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pushed on in in social media and
to be able to have that view in

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augmented reality.
That's what we're focusing on.

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So you'll start off, you'll
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to In Phase One have a picture
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people.
Think about how big that would

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be in social media.
A lot of people love sharing,

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like things that happen on a
particular Trail things that

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happen when they're out in the
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And sometimes, there's not like
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It's just like a perfect view
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loved ones.
Want to see where that was.

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So you'll have your regular
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going to have the ability to
click on it and and get a real

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live view of where that picture
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Take.
So I think that part of it, you

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know, and we have like a lot of
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is to be able to have those
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Not only for yourself, but for
your family and you could

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actually pass those down.
So you know, you have certain

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things where you want to say, oh
I would love to have my kid come

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with me and I didn't wear my dad
took me, right?

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happened.
So geolocation I can and you

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know being able to know exactly
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I think it's another big part of
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What I loved about the idea
personally, is that like talking

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about social media, usually that
means you are hooked to your

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device, right?
But what you are trying to do is

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use it for people to get
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So I think this is very cool and
the other question I wanted to

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ask you because when you talk
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So what do I need to use other
than my phone 22.

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You nothing, nothing.
I think that's the beautiful

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part, you know.
I think that also was missing

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when I when I thought about
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I think when you first see
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goes towards gaming, right?
And and I think that's that's

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hard because I think they missed
on that one a little bit.

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I know Pokemon go was a big
success but we didn't really see

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any other video games come out
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The demographic for video games.
It's not I'm you know, I play

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games and have you, no family
members that are really into

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gaming.
They don't want to leave the

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house, right?
It's you want to be really into

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your game.
So, You're trying to passes, you

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know, levels and you're in a
game, but you have to worry

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about the outside world.
That's really tough.

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I think of augmented reality
more of like a utility, right?

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You wanted to just help you with
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that's when augmented reality.
I really think takes a life of

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its own if I'm going to go out
anyway and try to meet people

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then I want to use it to enhance
that experience, have a little

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fun with it.
Helped me Network, help me find

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somebody.
So that's how we took a little

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bit of a Twist, and the fact
that you're not going to need

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any special equipment for it,
now, you'll always going to have

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the option to use it right as it
evolved.

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And as more things, come out but
compared to everything else

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hitting the market.
There are going to be using, you

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know, these expensive glasses,
you're going to miss a big part

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of the demographic with that.
I think this is something very

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cool because from user
experience perspective, you

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know, the less hassle you put on
the user, the better and just,

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you know, the fact that you
installed the app and then you

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get access to all the out, say
features and benefits your men.

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And it's something really really
cool.

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Now like other than you know
describing it from a our

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perspective like what do you
think other Technologies which

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are like trending Technologies
might fit?

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Also for you on like anything
like artificial intelligence.

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Maybe like a did you think that
you can also integrate more of

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such Technologies in your use
case?

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You know what are the things
that we were looking into was

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facial recognition but not too
to really get on the person.

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We look at it for because those
facial recognition tools, allows

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you to really get an area of
mapped out.

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So I think using tools like that
for being able like AI is going

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to be important when it comes to
safety, right?

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So as this app progresses and
then perception you know, right

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now the app has a capability of
seeing something within a

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horizontal view but once you go
into the vertical or, you know,

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technology is not there yet.
So there's there's still So some

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limitations to it, I guess
somebody's on the third floor,

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right?
You could point up the phone, it

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will still give you the distance
and then you know, exactly where

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they are there, as you get
closer, it will have vertical

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but that's something that again,
is still coming in Phase 2.

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So, like the Apple watch, has
the ability to tell you altitude

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right now.
So we'll be implementing that as

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we go into phase two, and that's
when it becomes even more

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exciting, right?
But I do want to touch on

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something.
You said, Most apps are focused

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on like conducting you but sure
like at home, right and and I

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think with technology now you
could feel as if you're

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connected in the digital world,
but in the real world you feel

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like something is missing right?
And I think that's what's

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exciting about this whole
project is that when, you know

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what, I think about the ability
to really connect people on this

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other platform and you're going
to, you're going to give people

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the ability.
Ernie to really make it their

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own.
So it's like a it's going to be

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very open to the user and how
they want to use it.

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And I think that's out.
I'm really interested to see

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that part.
I'm how this takes a life of its

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own when people are using it and
creating these events, I want to

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see what kind of events they
come up with and I want to see

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how to use it and I mean like
you could talk about like a

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scavenger hunt, you're going to
be able to have something that

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you know you'll put like a
location to and you talk engage

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with your users and say, hey
we're going to be Surprise in

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this area.
The the way that I even used it

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was parking my car.
I took a picture of my parked

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car and it's saved everything.
So when I was heading out of the

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stadium, I used dog Vinton
reality, just to find my car and

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it was one of those fun things
to just test in person, but we

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were in the stadium and a lot of
times you go into the stadium,

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they reroute you, you're trying
to find your seat and trying to

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find your car, sometimes, you
know, is time consuming on

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itself.
So it's just simple capabilities

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that are We enjoy when it comes
to the app or will give you a

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perfect example, I'm a big
football fan.

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And we went to, you know, game
and there's a lot of they have

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tailgating.
So when there's fans that are on

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the outside and they do like
these big tailgating events and

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it said, well, we're located in
parking lot Brown and I was

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like, okay, so you get there and
there's thousands of people,

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right?
And you're just like well how am

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I going to find this?
And that was like, it's so

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simple like to be able to share
The exact location, right?

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With a multitude of people.
I think that's the other thing.

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It's like, how can you share it
with the masses and then how

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could they find you with these?
So those are the things that I'm

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really excited about.
That's a cool use case.

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Also, I would say because I used
to have, but I trained myself

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not to lose where I parked the
car, whether in a huge shopping

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mall or they large complex.
Now, the thing I want to ask you

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with, like, What do you think,
you know, like the experience

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that you had before like working
with with big companies and what

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you have learned being an
entrepreneur?

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Like how this helps you really
to?

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You know, because I've seen that
the passion I can see, you know

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how you are relating this but
how your previous experience,

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help you in coming up with with
you one?

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In a multitude of ways, the, the
meetings that I've had being

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prepared.
I felt like I've been groomed

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for this position being able to
handle a team working with a

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bigger team.
And even though I haven't worked

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with developers of always kind
of work with technology and

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rolling it out and there's been
a lot of validation for me

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throughout this project.
You know, I'm not a developer,

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you know, I'm a you know,
entrepreneur had the idea.

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So during this process when we
were trying to figure out the

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technology that was As needed.
My team was in a slump, like,

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two months, where we couldn't
get past, the short range

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capability.
And it was through a

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conversation that I had
networking.

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That somebody had mentioned, a
different type of technology and

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we had a meeting and they said,
look, it's not looking too good.

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It looks like there's going to
be some limitations.

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So, you know, that night I spend
like two days and I went in this

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Rabbit Hole of like just started
going through articles and look

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Two different technology with
Samsung and how they were using

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different technology out there.
And I just, I kept going down

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this rabbit hole and through
this.

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I was able to find things that
might work.

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But usually those other ones use
different Technologies to work

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with it.
So I just went down this rabbit

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hole in the next being that we
had on my developers that it

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wasn't you know, they had the
same message it's like we're not

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finding anything that's working.
So forth.

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So I was able to not during the
meeting.

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I always feel.
Like during the meeting is not

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always the best time to bring up
something like this.

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So after the meeting was done, I
said, hey I just want you guys

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to look at this.
I've been researching this for a

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couple days now and I found some
things that definitely like

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they're going to help, but it's
going to require your guidance.

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So then I started emailing them
these articles and the following

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meeting we found that that was
the technology we needed.

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So there is validation for me
throughout the project or

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saying.
Okay, this is I'm very

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resourceful.
I always have been in my career,

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so, you know, I'm always going
to find a way to get things done

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and the outside perspective, you
know, my, you know, I don't even

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want to look at marketing, you
know, it my personal career,

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it's my outside of the box
thinking that has been able to

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give me success in my career as
opposed to, you know, look at

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this project.
If if I would have brought this

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project to life for years
earlier, like when I first had

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the idea instead of like getting
the parents, if I would have

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chased Development.
It wouldn't have worked because

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the technology that were using
has only been available for

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about a year and a half.
So that's that's the other fun

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part about it and that's, I
calculated risk.

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You know, that's what I think
about talked about an app.

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I said, I have to do a
calculated risk.

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So let me see what is the best
way to approach this?

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And I said, well, let me try to
get the patterns.

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If nobody has idea, I'm going to
proceed with the development

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team because that would be the
best way to go.

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I had other projects that I was
doing and This kind of took a

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life of its own.
I got my first you know, emails

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from my lawyer saying hey the
paths got approved and then from

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there it was choosing the right
team and I am so happy that my

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team that I chose.
I got a great group of

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developers and people are
excited with the project.

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They there's a personal aspect
to everyone when it comes to

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this technology, whether it's
somebody who's, you know, told

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me, you know, my kid, I, we're
at the beach, they're playing in

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the sand and I turned around to,
you know, prepare the We're

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going to sit in and they go into
the water but they go by the

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time that I looked there, maybe
half a mile down kids, get lost

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very easily.
You know, I have people that

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tell me about, you know, parents
with the Alzheimer's and they're

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like, man, I wish we had this
technology now and that's why

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would bring it out early because
there's so many aspects to this,

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that really need to be there for
the public.

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Now, to help.
And, as we rolled out, we're

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going to eventually bring out
the dating and the Social media

449
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right now.
The social me is going to be you

450
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,700
and wherever your friends are
you add them manually.

451
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,800
So there's no algorithm behind
it.

452
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:52,000
But in Phase 2, there's going to
be an algorithm behind us.

453
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,700
You can start sharing this with
the world.

454
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,000
Cool with.
Do you think you know you want

455
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,100
will reach what do where do you
want to take it?

456
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:04,900
Like what's your ultimate goal?
Right.

457
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:08,200
So so they wanted to make it
like another, of course, like

458
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,900
Facebook.
Do you want to make it like I

459
00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:11,300
don't know.
Like maybe like another

460
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,700
Platform.
So what.

461
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:19,200
Yes, what are your Ambitions?
I would say 41, I would love for

462
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,000
you want to be a household name,
you know, there's so many

463
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600
different aspects to this
whether it's going to be the

464
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,300
dating whether it's going to be
the social platform and there's

465
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:32,400
something for everybody, right?
So yeah, I want to I would love

466
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,600
for it to be on that level and I
think we have the capabilities.

467
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,300
I mean, just right now.
We're we haven't started our

468
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:41,300
Kickstarter yet but we've
already started releasing.

469
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,200
The information, I had a podcast
that I did and and we were

470
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,300
starting to release the
information there.

471
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,000
And it's because of people like
you, that allow us to speak

472
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,700
about our platforms.
It really makes a big difference

473
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,800
because you're starting to see
what people like about the

474
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,500
product and idea.
And on social media right now,

475
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:01,100
like I'm Tick-Tock or Instagram.
We're already starting to get

476
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,900
people that are really intrigued
by the notion of like, wow, I

477
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,000
don't have to have special
technology.

478
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,600
I'm going to be able to use this
as soon as it's out next month

479
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:11,300
and they want to, I think that's
the ass.

480
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600
I mean, people are looking for
that next big thing.

481
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,900
But what's better than
something?

482
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,200
You could actually use?
You know, and I think that's

483
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000
what's going to separate us and
I'm excited to see that.

484
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,600
I'm excited for for this
different aspect of what

485
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,800
augmented reality could be.
Like, if you really think about

486
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,700
it, there's nothing that that
you use augmented reality,

487
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:36,200
augmented reality for on an
everyday basis, right?

488
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,600
Because there's the gaming
aspect and then there is that

489
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,800
like, you know, Ikea, when it
Comes to like furniture and

490
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600
making sure it works in your
room, but I just always thought

491
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,500
that there was more of a
everyday use for it, right?

492
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:51,600
And that's when you start crying
like, thinking about I go.

493
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,100
Wow, right now we're having this
conversation, I hope that in the

494
00:25:56,108 --> 00:25:59,100
year, from now I'm walking
through the airport and people

495
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,000
are using it to find each other,
right?

496
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,300
Like when you get out, I think
that's going to be what's

497
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,000
fascinating to me when I start
seeing people using it and

498
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600
utilizing it.
And then when we started seeing

499
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,600
what people create with it, You
know, seeing the first reaction

500
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:18,200
because it it really is fun to
look through your screen and see

501
00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:21,100
the other person coming and you
guys are able to see like it.

502
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,000
I know it seems like such a
small thing right now but later

503
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,500
on that dot is going to be
second nature, you going to be

504
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,000
like oh yeah yeah just pull your
phone because that's going to be

505
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,400
something that you regularly is.
So yeah, we're excited about

506
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,700
that.
We hope that it gets to that

507
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,100
level.
Where you're talking about the

508
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:41,100
next big social media.
Coon one final question and

509
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,000
before For I will ask you the
the where we can find more about

510
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,800
you and what's your advice?
Because, you know you mentioned

511
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,300
you didn't, you don't have a
technical background and that I

512
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,100
know a lot of people, you know,
they have always yeah, I have

513
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:57,300
idea in my mind but, you know, I
never touch Tech.

514
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,700
You know, I just know how to use
the iPhone or a laptop or

515
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:06,000
whatever, what's your advice for
them to really bring their ideas

516
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,200
to life?
It takes people from every

517
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,400
aspect to create something great
and you can think about it this

518
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,600
way.
A lot of the times if you do, I

519
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,600
don't know if you watch sports,
but a lot of the times the best

520
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,500
players that there ever has
been, don't really translate

521
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:26,800
into being the best coaches,
right?

522
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,000
So, it's always the people that
were kind of in the background

523
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,700
that become some of the greatest
coaches that we ever have.

524
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,900
So when you're, when you're
creating this technology, as a

525
00:27:36,908 --> 00:27:40,800
user, I'm thinking to myself,
What is missing in the world and

526
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,100
some of the best inventions come
when somebody just asked, what

527
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,400
it, what is the world missing,
right?

528
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,600
And when you're afraid to move
forward, like, throughout this

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,300
whole process, you know, I ask
myself.

530
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:55,900
What was the best way to get
into this?

531
00:27:55,900 --> 00:28:00,200
And when you start we live, this
is the perfect time to start

532
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,300
anything Tech because any
questions that you have is just

533
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:08,600
a Google search Away, YouTube
search away, you know, like the

534
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,600
aisle lot of this projects and
even when I came up with this

535
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,800
technology was me going down the
rabbit hole of YouTube, right?

536
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,100
To find that source for my, for
my developers.

537
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,300
And then when it came to like
entrepreneurship and then

538
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,800
finding the right team, I
Googled these different

539
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,100
companies of developers to find
out.

540
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,600
How did they work with people
that were outside the industry,

541
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:30,400
right?
So, I have these readings of my

542
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,500
guys and my ideas, throughout
those progress process of always

543
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:40,100
really evolved and my team.
Sometimes they'll tell me That

544
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:43,900
doesn't work and I love the open
communication, but there's other

545
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:45,900
times that they tell me, man.
I don't know how you came up

546
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:48,800
with this idea.
This is brilliant, and we have

547
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,500
that open communication both
ways, but it takes somebody

548
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,400
that's outside, right?
Because I could tell you that, I

549
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,300
push my team a little bit more
than they're used to, you know,

550
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:02,700
because I come from a different
world, right?

551
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:06,800
So we really, I always tell him.
We're two months away from

552
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,600
launch, right?
A month away from launch.

553
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:12,100
I go if we're uncomfortable,
it's okay.

554
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,800
Everybody should be
uncomfortable right now because

555
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,300
it's the time that you know, you
push yourself more and those

556
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,200
little things when you when I
talk to them and I see their

557
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,900
excitement, it's like we're all
coming together.

558
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,000
They believe in me to push this
project out to be the face of

559
00:29:29,008 --> 00:29:30,400
this company.
They believe in me and that

560
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,900
aspect in our ideas.
And in together we're working to

561
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,200
build something unique.
I really, I really tell people

562
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
if you ever wanted to do
something, this is the Time to

563
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,500
do it.
We live in the information age,

564
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,300
anything that you need is out
there and available and and

565
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:49,000
through that, I also watch watch
videos on companies and how they

566
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000
launched products things that
they had issues with.

567
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000
I love the Instagram Story, the
Instagram Story, how they never

568
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000
started as Instagram, they
started like a check-in app and

569
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:04,800
after it wasn't taking all the
users were still using it only

570
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,900
like a certain number and they
started asking the user.

571
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:08,400
Like why do you guys still use
it?

572
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,700
Well, we live The photography
aspect of it.

573
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,000
It's great for pictures, so they
changed the whole direction of

574
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,900
the company.
Made it a whole new app.

575
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,800
So I always look at that those
like those stories and I go,

576
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800
okay.
I know what my original idea

577
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000
was, but what does this have the
capability of?

578
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,700
And there's a capability for so
much more, you know, you think

579
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:29,500
about.
And I hate to bring this up and

580
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:34,100
like you know you have issues
with with shootings, you know

581
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,300
like you know like shootings
that happen.

582
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:41,100
Yeah.
And in schools in the So, think

583
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:44,000
about when those things happen
for you to be able to see your

584
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
loved one, because how hard is
that during those situations to

585
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,800
explain something like this,
right?

586
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,300
Hey, I'm over here at this, you
don't know where you are some,

587
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:55,300
some emergency situation just
happened, you're afraid.

588
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,500
And for you to be able to find
your loved one.

589
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:00,300
During that time, those are the
things that are going to be

590
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,100
impactful.
Finding your loved one that has

591
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,500
Alzheimer's.
Like that is going to be where

592
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:08,900
this app is.
It's going to help somebody.

593
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,400
In their everyday life.
And that's I love all aspects

594
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,700
that I do the safety aspect.
I love the social aspect and I

595
00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:18,800
love that it's going to be able
to connect people that are

596
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,900
looking to find somebody else
outside of the regular platform

597
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,300
right now.
With, with dating apps, I always

598
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:30,500
say the hardest part, is you
have one a1b1.

599
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:35,500
Severs right Max.com.
Tinder coffee meets Bagel but

600
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,400
it's like another Instagram.
You have to have the best

601
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200
version of yourself.
Of in order to get a

602
00:31:40,208 --> 00:31:43,200
conversation started.
But once you go out into the

603
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,100
real world, that's when you
really need people, because

604
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,200
you're not always going to meet
people like when they're at home

605
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000
and they have 50 options, right?
You're at home.

606
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400
You have all these matches and
somebody doesn't say the things

607
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,200
that you like and then you go to
the next person.

608
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,100
Well that's I don't think that's
what we're dating really is, you

609
00:31:59,108 --> 00:32:01,200
know?
Because you want to be able to

610
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,300
find your match, but you might
be at a bookstore, it might be

611
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:09,600
at a grocery store.
People want to Be seen

612
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,700
everywhere, you know, and to be
able to connect people in that

613
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:17,000
aspect and change the way that
people see dating platforms is

614
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,600
going to be a unique on itself.
That's a great.

615
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,700
So we really appreciate your
time.

616
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:28,200
It's very early for you.
I know Louis, I have been, I

617
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,900
will be sharing with the
audience in the episode

618
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:32,800
description and this will be
also on YouTube.

619
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,100
So I will share the link for
your app and thank you again for

620
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:43,400
joining me.
And for my YouTube followers,

621
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,400
please remind yourself to push
the button to subscribe if you

622
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,900
didn't do it yet and to follow
same for the podcast as well.

623
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:55,200
Thank you very much and until we
meet next time.

624
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,100
Thank you.
Thank you guys.