#487 From Dream to Done: Cheryl Cunningham on Creating the Agentic OS for Solopreneurs

Episode 487

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Mehmet: Hello and welcome back to a new episode of the CTO Show in Mehmet today. I'm very pleased joining me, Cheryl Cunningham, CEO of Huro ai. Cheryl, the way I love to do it is I keep it to my guests to introduce themselves. So just let, tell us a bit about [00:01:00] you, your background, and what you're currently up to. And then we are gonna have a very, 

Engaging discussion about what you're currently doing at your current company and then probably discuss a couple of other things as well. So the floor is yours. 

Cheryl: Well, sounds great, ed. Thank you so much for having me, by the way. Uh, my name is Cheryl Cunningham. I'm CEO of Huro ai, and I have been, uh, CEO of Huro AI for.

Close to two years, a little bit over two years now. My, uh, vision for Huro when I first founded it was actually quite different than the vision today. And, uh, the vision back then was that I wanted to help everyone generate revenue in this new day and age where robotics and ai. Uh, or the, the future. And, you know, I was fearful about five years ago, I was fearful for everyone that we were all gonna lose our jobs, uh, to ai, right?

[00:02:00] And it was because of this fear that I founded Huro, and it was going to allow you to, uh, essentially leverage your AI or robotics and lease it out. Or sell it to, uh, other people so that you can generate a, a monthly, uh, income. So five years later, uh, I finally made good on my dream of, of actually building Huro out.

And today what Huro is, is essentially a full agentic operating system to help entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, SMBs. Take their vision to success with a full agentic operating system behind them. So imagine a, uh, you know, essentially an entire company in a box. 

Mehmet: Wow. I love [00:03:00] these stories. Now, Cheryl, out of curiosity, what brought you to the tech industry?

Like what attracted you in the first place? 

Cheryl: So, uh, Mette, you know, if you've seen my background, you probably know that I was in the food industry. Yes. in fact, most of my life I've been in the service industry and, you know, I'm very much a serving sort of attitude and personality, and I love serving.

but after, 25 years of entrepreneurship in the service industry. I realize that, entrepreneurship is a very difficult, journey. And what I wanted to do was to help ease that journey for entrepreneurs around the globe. my question at some point, around three years ago to myself was, if we, entrepreneurs are constantly building companies to help other.

businesses and consumers lead a better life. Why can't we build something for [00:04:00] ourselves? why don't we build something to make our lives easier? Entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, we have such a difficult time, but we're busy trying to solve everybody else's problem and not ourselves.

Mehmet: This is thought provoking, solving everyone's end problem except ourself. Yeah. You know? Now maybe I would relate to what you're currently doing with your ai. How much do you think, you know, AI allowed entrepreneurs like yourself to, to make this dream coming to reality and becoming something? Like, I know like you use also this term, like it's kind of democratizing AI for the mass entrepreneurs and solopreneurs as you said.

So like, tell me how, how is your, your, um, your vision about this? Especially because you know what, uh, Cheryl entrepreneurs used to look very [00:05:00] hard before and it wasn't for everyone. Right. And now with AI changing things, so how are you helping. If anyone who have a dream of becoming a solopreneur, entrepreneur, whatever that is, to achieve this dream, walk me through if I come to you today, Cheryl, I tell you, look, I have this vision, but I never did it before.

How you will be able to help me? 

Cheryl: Right. You know, if you take a look at all the tools out there today, we have some amazing tools at our disposal nowadays, right? If you always wanted to be a musician, but, but you couldn't write music, you couldn't be a musician. Um, if you wanted to be, you know, a, a party planner and now you can use Cha j PT and, and be a party planner or a wedding planner, um, quite easily.

So there are all these tools at our disposal now. But most of us don't know how to utilize [00:06:00] it properly. Um, and maximize and, and leverage, you know, that technology. Right? And, uh, if you take a look at the amount of technology, the number of choices that we have out there today, I mean, we have thousands.

Thousands. We have over 100,000. AI apps alone. So, you know, as, as great as the technology is out there and the selection that is out there, we don't know, most of us don't know where to begin. So as a brand new entrepreneur, you know, let's take a, a look at it from your point of view where. I'm brand new.

I've never been an entrepreneur before. I don't know where to begin. Now, the natural instinct, right? Uh, Mait. And what exactly, what you just did is you told me what your mission and vision is. 

Mehmet: Mm-hmm. 

Cheryl: That's step number one. [00:07:00] What are you trying to get to? What is that big vision and mission? Right? And then we work backwards from there.

So all the tools that we have out there now to help entrepreneurs, they're all siloed tools. Okay? If you wanna write an email and if you wanna automate your email process, you use this tool. If you want to, you know, have a, uh, automated design, you know, for presentations, for example, you use, you know, this tool.

Um, if you want to create, you know, develop AI agents to, you know, go do research for you or write papers for you, you use, you know, specific, uh, agents to do that. But see, the problem is that all of these are siloed. They're all in its own little bucket. Now, as an entrepreneur, this is, you know, where my experience comes in.

I don't want, I. [00:08:00] A million different tools. I don't wanna have to figure out how do I stitch all these tools together? How do I stitch together my email, uh, automation with my design automation, with my social media automation? How do I stitch it all together to make it whole? And be able to execute my vision to 

how do I, you know, tailor all these tools to my vision to help execute my big vision in a way where it's seamless in a way where all I have to do is tell you what my vision is and then you can handhold me. Through the entire process, A through Z in fine details.

Step one, you do this, step two, you do this. Step three, you do this. Oh, and by the way, for step one, I'm gonna give you all the tools that you need to be able to do that. And let's take it a step further. Instead [00:09:00] of just giving you the tools and telling you how to do it, I'm gonna go ahead and try and do it for you.

Mm-hmm. And how do I know how you like it done? Because. I am hyper personalized to you. So that's what we're offering here, is a hyper personalized end to end, full agentic operating system that holds your hand from start to finish and actually helps you execute it from start to finish. As a layman, that's the most important piece.

As a layman, you no longer need to be able to know how to code. All you need to know how to do is speak your vision, communicate to people like you normally do, and your ai, who we call Gabby, her name is Gabby. Mm-hmm. She's your COO. She's gonna be constantly listening. She's learning from you. She's understanding your challenges.

[00:10:00] Your solutions, and she's gonna help you execute along the way. And as she executes, if your vision changes, if your, uh, journey changes, if your, if you suddenly have a challenge that you have to meet, um, a new problem, right? That changes your entire journey, she will modify the journey. Retailer it to what you need it to be now.

Right. So, and we don't have, you know, this kind of a, um, journey mapping tool yet. Uh, and that's what, you know, our differentiator really, truly is. it's really truly for the layman. It's not just for people who are technically savvy. 

Mehmet: Got it. Now, you mentioned something about personalization. 

And I know you know, this is the core of, the AI technology itself is its [00:11:00] ability of understanding our patterns and our desires and our way of thinking. So I would imagine from what you just described, Cheryl, that there will be some. Onboarding phase. So Gabby, your AI agent would understand me because I might not able from day one to express exactly the mission and vision because you know, yeah.

I came to you with this question, I was very clear, but as you said, maybe not everyone would be able to express themselves. So how would you be able also to extract this information, which is. I'm sure a hundred percent it is embedded within us, but some of us, we don't know how to express it. So how Gabby gonna come and help me here so it can personalize based on the things that I have?

Cheryl: That's a great question. Mette, uh, [00:12:00] you know, most of us have dreams that we've always wanted to pursue, right? Whether it's professionally, whether it's. home life, uh, personal life, you know, even your ambitions as a, as a professional working in a large corporation, most of us have this, you know, idea of where we would like to be in the next year or two.

So I would say that's a really great start is have that conversation where, what do you want to achieve in your personal life? Um, and I think you'll, you'll find that, you know, as you have a conversation with Gabby. Once you start talking about, you know, your personal life and you know, she's, she's, uh, asking you lots of really meaningful, deep questions, I think at some point you'll realize that, oh, you know, what I really want to do is this, and it may not be, um, a business.

not all of us are cut out to be entrepreneurs or want to be entrepreneurs. [00:13:00] however, there is such a statistics out there, right now. Um, from Upwork, I believe that says by 2030, 70% of us are going to be self-employed. So, uh, I think whether you want it to be an entrepreneur or not, whether you're cut out to be or not, I think the future very much looks, uh, you know, to be headed towards an entrepreneurial economy.

Mehmet: Right now, one thing, um, Cheryl and you mentioned about, um, being the one, you know, the solopreneur basically, you know, we would have a lot of solopreneurs, um, in the age of ai. And the AgTech AI and all the things that are happening currently. Do you envision that, for example, just outtake you and me?

[00:14:00] So you decide to specialize, let's say in marketing. I decide to specialize in, I don't know, maybe design. So me with my agents. Uh, specializing in design, we would be interacting with you and your agents specializing in marketing. And then is this like, be, because at the end of the day, we need to sell our services to someone.

And what I'm wondering, and I'm asking these questions and maybe the audience will get bored of it, but I'm really curious to collect this, you know, as much as I can opinions on, on the topic, which is. If we start and we are doing it, actually use the ai, the agents and so on, and you're calling it the operating system, which I like it also in doing these tasks.

So where still our roles would be. Is it like in the. Sales, you know, closing phase is it in the after [00:15:00] support? So where us as humans, uh, our role would be basically focused on when utilizing agents. 

Cheryl: I like to think of us as the source code, if you will. You know, we lend our. Unique perspective as a rare, unique individual, each one of us that's what makes us so special, right?

Um, I grew up in a different way than you did. I had different friends, I had different, experiences in life. And so the, social media, even if the two of us created the same. agents to do the same thing. 

Mehmet: Mm-hmm. 

Cheryl: Our agents would inevitably become quite different solutions. even though it does the same thing how we went about building it, because it's hyper personalizing, right?

Remember, if it's hyper-personalized to us, it's essentially, you know, think of it like a replica of us or a duplicate of [00:16:00] who we are, the essence of who we are, right. Um, so, you know, for example, I'll give you a deeper example. Let's say we both create a, social media, Tool or agent, that's able to go out there and create social media for us.

And let's just say, you know, my life, my background is, and I'm totally making this up. Let's just say my background is that I am an orphan, right? I grew up as an orphan, it's not true, but I grew up as an orphan and so I learned a lot of lessons about. life as an orphan, right?

You grew up, in a village. Maybe, you grew up in a village in, I don't know, somewhere in India, right? You can imagine that your life and my life are very, very different. And even though the two of us have created, social media, agents. the way your social media agent is going to be [00:17:00] thinking and solving problems and who it targets is probably much more likely.

People who will identify with you coming from the background that you come from. Number one, you're Indian. Number two, you grew up in a village, so you see things very differently, right? the way you market. To villagers versus the way you market to somebody in a metropolitan city is very different.

Mehmet: Right? 

Cheryl: Right. So, and for me, you know, if I created a social media tool, um, coming from an orphanage background, for example, uh, maybe I will be much more targeted towards. Uh, people who identify with that, you know, that kind of a life where, you know, maybe my background, I, I've had a difficult childhood. Um, and so the, the way I pitch, [00:18:00] the way I tell my story is going to have a much different kind of messaging than the kind of messaging that you learned.

Marketing to villagers that you grew up in, uh, that you grew up? Yeah. 

Mehmet: Right. Actually, you remind me of something I started to repeat recently. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thinks this way, but to your point, because this was, spot on for me. regardless of the AI and all the hype, when we talk tech startups, a lot of times we see like, take this playbook, repeat that, do this, do that.

And I tell people, look, you know, there are three dimensions and it's not like the physical three dimensions. We know. I say it's your location where you are currently, it's the time, right. So let's say someone did it in 2010, but now we are in [00:19:00] 2025, right? And the third one is your personality, right?

So these three, I call them the three dimensions and I say you can't actually. Copy paste. Exactly. Another playbook, because one of these three for sure, at least we know the time is different. Right? At least we are sure that the time is different. So you cannot do it. And to your point, this was an eye-opening also for me.

honestly, now I want to ask you about something which also related to what you're currently doing, you mentioned your previous background, in the food industry and other industries as well. And I was like, as you said, you nailed the distribution before.

So how distribution, like making sure like you are able to reach as much people as possible. What lessons you, you know, you took from previous experiences to apply in a technology startups now that you have seen working. 

Cheryl: Let's take for example, um, lessons from my, my food [00:20:00] industry. Mm-hmm. You know, do you remember a time when there was no Uber delivery?

Yeah, of course. There was no food delivery before. And the only way that we could get, you know, food from our favorite restaurant was to physically go there and get the food, um, and bring it home if we wanted to. Right. We, we couldn't push a button and just send it out. Now Uber changed everything. Now we're getting groceries delivered.

Uh, you know, Amazon changed everything too. We got our books delivered and, and, you know, everything that we ever want is, is being delivered to us. So that's the distribution method. The distribution method changed everything for everyone. So, uh, you know, think about how do we then apply the distribution method, question mark, how do we apply that improvement to technology?

So, um, you know, you gotta think of it and, and [00:21:00] kind of align it with, uh, let's just say, you know, back to that, that restaurant industry example. The roads in which the cars drive on is the highway in which the food is being delivered to you. Right? And of course, you need the people to deliver it to you as well.

So let's apply it to the technology sector. What is the highway? It's. For example, cable, uh mm-hmm. Uh, you know, wifi, fiber optics, that's the highway, Right. And then the, uh, people who deliver it to you, it is potentially the companies that deliver it to you. So your providers, your internet service providers, for example, those are the people that deliver cable TV to you.

They deliver, you know, whatever services it is that you can buy from, uh, telecoms nowadays. [00:22:00] So, uh, that's the distribution method that I believe, you know, is the next era of how we revolutionize distribution method of technology. 

Mehmet: Makes sense, makes sense to me.

Uh, and I think it's becoming easier by the day. Um. And it's becoming also, um, you know, easy to, in a sense, like, I'm not saying it's easy, but if you master, you know, what you have or the steps that you have to do and visualize the way how to reach your customers, like indeed it would be going there.

Now, one thing also related to what you're doing, Cheryl, and this is, you know, stopped me when I read the bio, um, so. I've seen like you, you, you mentioned like, you know, what you're doing currently, it has something to do with quantum and quantum ai. Out of curiosity, what, where do you envision quantum and quantum AI in [00:23:00] the whole, you know, industry in a general, and, you know, maybe you have a vision also with what you're currently doing at, uh, Huro.

Cheryl: Uh, so the quantum piece came from almost like an existential problem of, of, uh, the a SI that we think we can develop, right? 

Mehmet: Mm-hmm. 

Cheryl: It, the question off the top of my head, immediately, as soon as, you know, we started having discussions about, you know, this SI that we're developing. The immediate question was, well, uh, isn't there an energy problem in the world today?

And our technology is not going to help the energy crisis. It's gonna make it worse. 

Mehmet: Yeah. 

Cheryl: And you know, our company, this logo that you see right here is a Phoenix. But what you can't really see is actually four stars at its [00:24:00] beak. If you go onto our website, Huro ai.com, you'll see. Tiny little stars that you can't really, you know, uh, you gotta really straighten almost.

and those four stars, there's one big one, which we call the North Star. We are guided by our North star, that's what that big star means. And then there are three smaller stars right around it. And the three small stars represent humanity's body, mind, and soul. So those four stars combined is our promise to humanity that we will take care of humanity's body, mind, and soul in every decision that we make.

So, um, then came the question, uh, of the a SI and how are we going to solve the problem, not add to the problem? And number two. Was, if we're going to build this a SI that's able to listen to our every single communication [00:25:00] to be able to learn from us, how much data is that going to require? I mean, this is massive, right?

Massive amounts of data. How do we reduce that down to, uh, terabytes? and then lastly. the biggest, problem in my opinion was, you know, we are a society nowadays in which we expect everything immediately. we have zero patience, right? So if I were to ask Gabby, uh, what did I get, you know, Joe Schmo for a Christmas present 10 years ago.

I don't want Gabby to have to, you know, wait three days to come back to me with the answer. I want the answer immediately. Um, if I want to test the feasibility of a new concept that I have, I want, uh, Gabby to be able to give me the [00:26:00] feasibility, um, study and results immediately, like within seconds.

Mehmet: Mm-hmm. 

Cheryl: So if we are going to have Gabby listened to, say, 10 years of data, which is an insane amount of data, right? how can Gabby sift through 10 years of data plus. A world of knowledge, the global knowledge out there in order to give me the answer that I'm looking for. None of these three problems are possible, um, to solve without quantum.

So we went about solving this problem with the idea that quantum is achievable. Now when we started looking at how achievable quantum actually is, um, obviously it's, it's not reality at the moment because none of [00:27:00] us have a freezer, um, that's able to, you know, store this subzero chip, quantum chip.

neither do we have laptops that's able to process, you know, at quantum, speed right now. So, you know, what we had to do was essentially say, well, we're restricted by physics, we're restricted by, where we are currently in technology. how can we get to quantum level using the parameters and resources that we currently actually have.

And so we were able to actually think outside the box. and the beauty of this is that because we're not quantum scientists. We were able to think and create, a quantum technology that was not dependent on Sub-Zero temperatures. 

Mehmet: Okay. that's, you know, [00:28:00] super, I would say inspiring because you're trying to.

solve, the unsolvable to me. And you're trying to leverage, your own technology to get to that next level. And I like when you said, about, these three stars and what they represent and, the intersection with technology. when you talked about, and you were describing the quantum computing and the way still we can't actually do it because of the, physical barriers, let's call them this way, but I don't think we are very partial from getting to that point.

do you agree with me, 

Cheryl: the Sub-Zero temperature still has years to go. if you can imagine, you are talking about, a chip sitting in some mega, multi-billion dollar lab right now To be able to scale that into every single equipment hardware that we have that has a chip right now, from your cell phone to your [00:29:00] laptop, to your iot device.

I mean, even if we are able to get to a, room temperature or ambient temperature quantum in the next five years, you still have to figure out how do we then scale that to every single hardware that already exists? Do we all throw out our existing devices and start all over again? The amount of waste that it would create would be massive.

So there's a lot of steps in getting to that point where we're ready for that. also the security issue is a big problem as well, because if quantum is able to decipher and decode and, decrypt, in milliseconds. Or seconds, what kind of security do any of us have at that point?

So I don't think the world is ready for our technology. our technology is, patents pending right now. Our quantum technology. So we have not gotten to [00:30:00] the point where we're building this chip. our technology is actually designed for. leveraging the telecom infrastructure such as fiber optics first.

So we are actually going to be inserting our technology into that primarily first. Um, but yeah, back to what I was saying, I don't think the world is ready for quantum. I don't think a lot of us are ready for AI right now. Um, especially since, you know, news just came out. A few days ago of, uh, you know, some rogue behaviors, right?

That AI is now, demonstrating. Uh, so there's a lot of work to be done. I think there's a lot of catch up for us to do. Uh, the innovators have to think very carefully about our next steps and how we mitigate these challenges. 

Mehmet: it's something very, you know, what, you just described [00:31:00] Cheryl, it's proved what I'm telling people, like we still have a lot and a long way, ahead, especially in the deep tech and what we can do because people, thought for a moment that done 

You know, the famous saying of software is eating the world but we still have a lot. And recently I was, lucky enough to speak to, founders in the deep tech industry on the podcast and outside and now with you also. And really we have still some road to cross to reach other, levels 

Being ready or not? sometime I think like you, I think it's not like we are not ready, but I think we are moving too fast, but I'm not afraid of that. I think, history showed us that, we can do it. I would say it this way, we will not have catastrophe.

We'll not have, as some people, show us it's not apocalypse or something like this, but yeah, we, we, we gonna do this, by educating people, by just showing them the real value of such [00:32:00] technology. this is at least my own belief on this. now. Moving to the part of, growing the business and, taking it to the next level.

Gerald, how do you envision, you know, people would be talking about the company, let's say in four or five years from now. 

Cheryl: Oh man, I hope it is our hope that we become a household name, right? Yes. Uh, it is my hope that, you know, we become the Gabby that's in everyone's home and office. That you simply speak.

It's, uh, you know, imagine the Siri that you wish actually worked. You know, uh, that's what we really hope is, is like a Siri that actually works. Um, and this Siri is always constantly, uh, maneuvering to help you. Achieve whatever your goal is, you know, whether it's a goal for your family, [00:33:00] whether it's a personal goal, career goal, professional goal, uh, life goal, whatever it is you wanna achieve, it's gonna help you.

And, um, and it does that on a daily basis through your daily life. So I, yeah, that's, that's my vision in every home and office. 

Mehmet: In every home and office. I like this. Now, I want to ask you something, Cheryl, and you know, this is for fellow entrepreneurs. you've done it, multiple times.

You changed industries. and every time, I was fascinated by how much you are knowledgeable and how you mastered, talking about the technology. so if someone is just listening to us, maybe still a young entrepreneur and they are about to take that leap, what you can tell them.

In order to just take that leap and start building. 

Cheryl: Hmm. I think it would be [00:34:00] very much the magic word that you just stated there. Meme leap. 

Mehmet: Mm-hmm. 

Cheryl: There is no other way to say it. You know it's standing at the cliff, right? It's standing at the cliff. Staring into the abyss, you don't know what you're jumping off into, and you're not gonna know.

You're never gonna know what's coming your way. It's just like having a child. It's the same thing. If you constantly think about having a kid and you don't actually do it, you'll never understand what it's like to be a parent. You'll never understand the challenges that may come to you. And by the way, every child is different.

Absolutely 

Mehmet: right. 

Cheryl: Sometimes you get lucky and you get a great kid. Uh, and then sometimes you get a really just, you know, you wanna pull your hair out and you don't know what to do. And then, you know, you can get that middle of the way kid, right? So a business is very [00:35:00] much your child, right? it's very much that case where you jump off the cliff, you don't know what you're gonna get, and all you have to do is hope that you know, uh.

You get lucky. And these, you know, uh, lucky, you know, opportunities come to you. And when I say lucky, it's not like you don't have to put yourself out there and go make and create that luck. You have to create opportunities in order for you to get lucky, if that makes sense. Right? You can't sit at home and suddenly hope that you win the lottery when you never bought a lottery ticket.

right. So you have to make that leap and, uh, now more than ever before, I think are almost headed in a era where you are forced to make that leap. Um, as more and more of us lose our jobs due to ai, as [00:36:00] more, technologies come out that teach us how to leverage AI in order to achieve our vision, this, you know, nexus.

Of the perfect storm coming together basically where you lose your job, but all of a sudden you have all these tools that will help you achieve this grand vision you've always wanted for yourself. Now, you know, it creates this perfect storm where you say, okay, maybe this is the time. Um, and maybe I have to because I just lost my job and I've been trying for the, uh, the last year or two to get hired.

And there's so many, you know, uh, people who are competing for jobs right now that I can't even get, you know, interviews. So if you're in that position where you are. You know, bank account is, is draining. 

Mehmet: Mm-hmm. 

Cheryl: And you have to survive. What are you gonna do? you're forced to become, [00:37:00] um, an entrepreneur or solopreneur.

So more than ever, I think, uh, it's no longer a, you know, freedom to choose whether you want to take that leap. I think more than ever. Um, you're going to have to take that leap. 

Mehmet: Yeah, if you allow me to allow that. One thing is, I know like it's also an old saying, and you know, people repeat, but now it, for me it has more meaning than before.

You know, when they used to tell us like, we need to reinvent ourselves, we need to learn, unlearn, and relearn again. And I think now it's the time because in I, I'm not, uh, by any mean, uh, kind of a fortune teller, I tell people, but. I have a good sense of spotting things. I feel, you know, because I'm, I'm lucky enough to see a lot of, um, I would call this breakthrough that happened in the past, [00:38:00] let's say at least 30 years, you know, since I start to understand what's around me.

So from the internet to, you know, smartphones and then later on, you know, all the. You know, digital transformation and all this, and now we have this ai, and this time I feel like it's kind of a, I don't like to call it this way, but looks like it's like the last chance for. Everyone to believe that, you know, this is the future.

And I have to somehow understand because otherwise, it's like the old days when people who couldn't read and write, they would feel very horrible. Right. And you know, I was listening the stories of my, not very far in my ancestors, like just like maybe grandfather and grandmother that. Who suffered because they couldn't read and write and they felt like, like we were lost.

And I don't want people to get lost, to your point, like this is the time for people to go all in and learn before it's too [00:39:00] late. And what I have seen, Cheryl, I. you're a great example of people who relearn and, you know, keep continuously educate themselves. And, um, for the people who miss this part and they say, yeah, okay, fine, I will think about it later.

These are the same people who complain when there are mass layoffs, when there are like this big events. So it, it's really inspiring. So as we come close to the end. Finally things, maybe something you wanted to share I didn't ask you about. And of course, like how people can know more and get in touch. 

Cheryl: Um, you know, I think I wanna leave off with saying for those of you who really are not technologically savvy, don't worry because AI is catching up to you.

The ag agentic operating system that we're building, for example, and we're just one company. We are building it in a way where you layman who have [00:40:00] no technology, you know, um, understanding at all is going to be able to use it. So don't worry that you have to learn how to use AI because we.

are bringing it right to your doorstep and we're gonna tailor it exactly as you would. Um, your user experience will be seamless than what you do nowadays. It will feel natural. To you, you won't even be able to tell the difference in the future, except it seems like magic. That that would pretty much be the only, you know, words out of your mouth is, Hey, I told it to do something, and all of a sudden it did everything for me.

It's like magic. Um, I think that's gonna be the new thing. So I wouldn't worry much about that. What I would really worry about is, [00:41:00] um. In the future where everyone is innovating at the speed of light, quite literally at the speed of light. If I were able to just, you know, think about what we're, what we just suggested we're creating, right?

We're creating a operating system in which you can tell it your dreams and we'll go make your dream come true. 

Mehmet: Yeah. 

Cheryl: So if we're all innovating at the speed of light. And you are one of those people that's hesitant on innovating, that's hesitant on improving, that is not a, you know, a very creative person that doesn't think in that sort of realm, right.

Of things that, that, uh, entrepreneurial sort of thinking. Um. How will you then compete in the future? How will you [00:42:00] survive? Yeah. I honestly think the question, um, and I hate to sound, you know, almost, um, putting the fear in people, but I do think it's no longer a question of, can I use technology to further.

improve my life. I think it is a matter of survival now, uh, and I think, you know, those who are not seriously thinking about this, you really need to, um, you know, put some serious thought into the fact that your survival and your family survival is entirely dependent. On how, uh, innovative you will become in the near future,

Mehmet: right? Uh, where people can get in touch. 

Cheryl: So, uh, Huro ai.com and you'll see words right there. [00:43:00] Huro ai.com is our website. Now, when you go to our website. You're gonna see, uh, only basically in our interpretation technology. We're not necessarily, uh, you know, blasting out to the world that we are creating the ENT operating system right now.

We will be launching that actually very soon. So we are looking for, uh, beta testers right now. So if you are interested, please reach out to us. Uh, and just simply send us an email on the website there's contact information on the contact page and let us know in the subject line that you are interested in becoming a beta tester.

Mehmet: Sure. Um, I. Will encourage people to do the, so, because it's very promising what Cheryl and the team are building and yeah, everything will be in the show notes so they can, reach out from there. Just one point before I close [00:44:00] about what you said. Yeah. It is a survival kit today, same as, you know.

Back in the days they used to take food and, you know, water with them. So now you need to have the technology like without that. Yeah. it's a survival matter and a hundred percent. I agree with you Cheryl. Really, it was a very engaging, thought provoking, conversation with you, Cheryl. I really enjoyed it.

I learned a lot from you. I like the energy. I like, you know, the way, how you have this complete vision of where you want to take, you know, this agent AI and how you want to help, which is more important, in my opinion, the mission that you have to empower everyone to start businesses and help. People who already started it in achieving, you know, and getting their full fledge, you know, dreams and vision, realized.

So I really thank you for being here with me today, and I know for ICO how much busy it can be. So thank you for your time. [00:45:00] And this is for the audience, so. As I mentioned, all the links will be in the show notes. And if you just discovered this podcast by luck, thank you for passing by. I hope you enjoyed If you did, so give me a small favor, subscribe, share it with your friends and colleagues so we can reach more people.

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